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  • #31
    Saw a program on him. They reckoned his deformity wasn't so extensive that it would have been a real encumbrance. He would have still have been able to ride, wear armour and fight as he did at Bosworth. However the bones did reveal he had let himself go a bit in the last couple of years of life - too much feasting and drinking after he became king.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Dibble201Bty View Post

      Yeah! And I'll crap and pee on her (Tey) ectoplasma, clean it up and flush it down the pan of bullshit, fictional history.
      THAT is rather neutral , Now tell us how you really feel.......


      The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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      • #33
        Originally posted by marktwain View Post

        THAT is rather neutral , Now tell us how you really feel.......

        With my fingertips.
        ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
        All human ills he can subdue,
        Or with a bauble or medal
        Can win mans heart for you;
        And many a blessing know to stew
        To make a megloamaniac bright;
        Give honour to the dainty Corse,
        The Pixie is a little shite.

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        • #34
          I was nineteen when I read Tay's " the Daughter of Time", and thought that she was really on to something by blaming Henry the Seventh......Now I realize that it was , mostly, conjecture...
          The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
            Was Anne Neville behind the murders of the Princes in the Tower?
            It appears PG or, more probably, the producers of The White Queen, made a false assertion. Shouldn't trust telly.
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            • #36
              for a medevial woman to have wielded that much power behind the Throne
              Originally posted by BELGRAVE View Post

              Surely her presence at the executions does not,of itself, implicate her in the murders,even assuming she was. What, after all ,would she gain ? She could just have been the dutiful wife.

              We've seen the last of good King Richard
              Roll out the past - the dude got shanked!

              Put down your swords & pull up your pitchers
              Raise up your glass
              to Good King Hank!
              Last edited by marktwain; 31 Dec 18, 22:52. Reason: full APOLOGIES TO STEELEY DAN
              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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              • #37
                Just got a biography of Anne Neville out of the Library. Haven't had a chance to read it yet, but if it sheds any insights to this thread will report back.
                "COOMMAAAAAAANNNNDOOOO!!!!!"
                - Mad Jack Churchill.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Surrey View Post
                  Saw a program on him. They reckoned his deformity wasn't so extensive that it would have been a real encumbrance. He would have still have been able to ride, wear armour and fight as he did at Bosworth. However the bones did reveal he had let himself go a bit in the last couple of years of life - too much feasting and drinking after he became king.
                  Well of course not! But his description by Shakespeare is pretty accurate as to how 'Dickey' looked. And the look on that dickeyIII fanfem, 'expert's' teary face at the skeletal autopsy was priceless. The best tiny piece of TV I have ever seen. Has anyone heard or read much of what she thought of the findings?

                  https://www.smithsonianchannel.com/v...ack-king/20656
                  Last edited by Dibble201Bty; 31 Dec 18, 21:29.
                  ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
                  All human ills he can subdue,
                  Or with a bauble or medal
                  Can win mans heart for you;
                  And many a blessing know to stew
                  To make a megloamaniac bright;
                  Give honour to the dainty Corse,
                  The Pixie is a little shite.

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                  • #39
                    both wealth, power, and land were craved by the triumvirate of Richard duke of York, Neville, and Warwick. |Richard would have barely known father}Land grabbed in turbulent times - and retained in landholdings of incredible size. England was recoveringroorm the plague, and wages were being artificially held down- hence Jack Cade's rebellion.
                    I have some sympathy for Henry VI- a gentle soul in a grab & brawl world...

                    Richard, duke of York's rapacity made boss tweed look like Ghandi.
                    Fascinating reading. A rather gifted, but flawed family. Richard the Third didn't get the best in
                    parental guidance .

                    Last edited by marktwain; 09 Jan 19, 14:57.
                    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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