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    I just finished watching this amazing movie this morning. For those who don't know it is a film released in 1954 that was directed by Akira Kurosawa, who also did Ran and another called the something Fortress (Which inspired Star Wars, don't know how would have to watch it.) It's a long haul of a movie but VERY VERY VERY GOOD! I like the fact that most of the Samurai are actually Ronin so they are looking for something to get them out of trouble. Any commentes about this great film?

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    Classic film!
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    • #3
      Didn't this film inspire The Magnificent Seven?

      As for Fortress - not seen it myself, but being a bit of a Star Wars fan, I'm led to believe that the story concerns a handsome young prince (who becomes Luke in SW Ep IV) rescuing a beautiful Princess (Leia) who is held in the clutches of an evil overlord (Vader) in a massive Castle (The Death Star). There are two bickering soldiers (R2 and 3PO) through whose eyes the story is told.

      Something like that anyway.

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      • #4
        Re: The Seven Samurai

        Originally posted by BarcelonaBlom
        I just finished watching this amazing movie this morning. For those who don't know it is a film released in 1954 that was directed by Akira Kurosawa, who also did Ran and another called the something Fortress (Which inspired Star Wars, don't know how would have to watch it.) It's a long haul of a movie but VERY VERY VERY GOOD! I like the fact that most of the Samurai are actually Ronin so they are looking for something to get them out of trouble. Any commentes about this great film?

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        Comic Relief Samurai making fun of everyone
        It's a great movie! It's also the father of a whole series of westerns -- the swordplay ain't bad either!

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        • #5
          One of my most favorite movies. Toshiro Mifune plays the crazy samurai, and won the Japanese equivalent of an Oscar for his role. Yes, it did inspire The Magnificent Seven, another classic great.
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          • #6
            Mifune played in two movies that I consider all time classics. Pearl Harbor and Midway.
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            • #7
              Is The Seven Samurai out on DVD yet? If so, can it be watched in Japanese with English subtitles?

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              • #8
                http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047478/dvd


                Says Japanese with English subtitles.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Overseer
                  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047478/dvd


                  Says Japanese with English subtitles.
                  Thanks Overseer!:thumb:
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                  • #10
                    I just rented Ran as well says its like King Lear Japanese style, my dad said him and a bunch of his friends watched it in Japan when he was in the Navy, said it was good.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BarcelonaBlom
                      I just rented Ran as well says its like King Lear Japanese style, my dad said him and a bunch of his friends watched it in Japan when he was in the Navy, said it was good.
                      I've heard it compared to King Lear as well, but haven't seen it.

                      After you look it over, can you give us a quick review?

                      Thanks

                      JS
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Janos
                        I've heard it compared to King Lear as well, but haven't seen it.

                        After you look it over, can you give us a quick review?

                        Thanks

                        JS
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                        • #13
                          The Seven Samurai is available on DVD. I rented it through NetFlix (www.netflix.com). It is in Japanese with English subtitles. It is very long, and it is outstanding.

                          Ran was inspired by King Lear. I remember it being very good, but have not seen it since its US release, many years ago.
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                          • #14
                            Just finished Ran VERY well made movie! It got an Oscar for Costume Design which I applaud but WOW! The wide angles during the battle. I've never read King Lear but I think I get the basics. Lots of political games and some action (a large battle near the end but not much hand to hand that you see). But I thought it was great, seemed like the boardgame Shogun took a lot from this movie or something.

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                            BASIC PLOT LINE SPOILER FOLLOWS!!!




                            A father (who is the High Lord) decides to split his empire among his three sons. He gives the main leadership (minus the title and missing a few guards which the father, Hidetora keeps) to the eldest Taro. Saburo another brother is p'ed and speaks his mind, him and Hidetora's vassel are banished.

                            Taro and his wife (who I had marked out as a 5-letter woman, which was true) are upset that the High Lord is still around and wishes for him to leave. He does and decides to go to another castle which Taro and Ijiro's (the 2nd Brother) forces lay waste to. Hidetora goes mad after him and his fool are the only lives spared only because Hidetora is mad. Taro is slain during the battle by a bullet from one of Hidetora's bodyguard.

                            Hidetora goes into hiding and comes upon his vassal Tango.

                            Saburo gets into an alliance with 2 other Lords from neighboring lands.

                            Ijiro is now High Lord, Taro's wife (remember her?) comes into his life and demands that she be his wife (he is allready married though) and that his wife's head be cut off. She starts playing little games with him trying to gain control.

                            Tango goes and seeks Saburo to help Hidetora though Hidetora is absolutely scared and I believe this is where the Fool line from Star Wars comes from because the fool of Hidetoras court is leading him around now.

                            Saburo comes back to the land trying to find his father. The 2 warlords he is league with come and stay on the borders. Ijiro brings his army out to try and trick Saburo and find out where is father is (who the 5-letter woman also wants killed). He sets an ambush for Saburo as he goes to find his father. Saburo finds him and shakes him out of his madness. As they come back Saburo is killed in the ambush and Hidetora dies of anguish. Ijiro is fooled when he finds out one of the warlords armies is a decoy and Saburos army though outnumbered holds terrain advantadge over his men. He retreats to his castle. They find that the 5-letter woman has got her way and killed Ijiro's wife. Ijiro's vassal slays her after she informs them that her purpose had been to destroy the House. Ijiro steels himself to die as the 3 armies attack his castle. I didn't quite get the ending after this though. It has a meaning which I haven't figured out yet.

                            Suprisingly enough this is VERY VERY VERY simplified.
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                            • #15
                              To bring the above update to Janos's Attention



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