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  • WTTA MOVIES OF 2004 - Troy

    From the Yahoo website:

    "In 1193 B.C., Prince Paris (Bloom) of Troy stole the beautiful Greek woman, Helen (Kruger), away from her husband, Menelaus, the king of Sparta, setting the two nations at war with each other, as the Greeks began a bloody siege of Troy using their entire armada, led by Achilles (Pitt), that lasted over a decade."

    The great story of The Iliad, by Homer, covers the siege of Troy. This is one of the great classics of ancient history (not to mention a wonderful tale of heroes and Greek gods). But in this case it's spiked up with some of the studly actors of 2004.

    This will be one to see!

    Send your opinions on the movie (due out in a few days) or The Iliad.

    JS
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    Re: WTTA MOVIES OF 2004 - Troy

    Originally posted by Janos
    From the Yahoo website:

    "In 1193 B.C., Prince Paris (Bloom) of Troy stole the beautiful Greek woman, Helen (Kruger), away from her husband, Menelaus, the king of Sparta, setting the two nations at war with each other, as the Greeks began a bloody siege of Troy using their entire armada, led by Achilles (Pitt), that lasted over a decade."

    The great story of The Iliad, by Homer, covers the siege of Troy. This is one of the great classics of ancient history (not to mention a wonderful tale of heroes and Greek gods). But in this case it's spiked up with some of the studly actors of 2004.

    This will be one to see!

    Send your opinions on the movie (due out in a few days) or The Iliad.

    JS
    I saw a clip of this the other night - it was Brad Pitt as Achilles fighting Hector (can't remember the actor's name - but he's an Aussie) on the plains outside the city of Troy.

    Each combatant had just his shield and his sword. It looked pretty good.

    Going to have to try and persuade Mrs Sinister to go and see this with me (she got a load of cinema vouchers for her birthday).

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    • #3
      In my school we were going to go see this as a class trip. But then they bumped it up from PG-13 to R, so now we can't go see it

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      • #4
        Originally posted by NapoleonRocks
        In my school we were going to go see this as a class trip. But then they bumped it up from PG-13 to R, so now we can't go see it.
        I'm in the same dilemma. Apparently, in addition to the violence you expect in a movie like this, there is also some nudity. if it were just the violence, I would probably go (I doubt it's as violent as what I've been through in the last year), but probably will not go if there is real nudity.
        They may have wrecked a good story.
        JS
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        • #5
          I'm debating between Van Helsing and Troy for this weekend. I might see both

          I'll report on Troy of I see it.
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          • #6
            The previews look interesting. One question, will Orlando Bloom ever do another movie where he DOESN'T use a sword? After three "Lord of the Rings" movies and "Pirates of the Caribbean" he should be fairly proficient. I guess you can't fault him, the movies he's been in have done pretty well.
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            • #7
              He had a minor role in Black Hawk Down where he had an M-16.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Janos
                I'm in the same dilemma. Apparently, in addition to the violence you expect in a movie like this, there is also some nudity. if it were just the violence, I would probably go (I doubt it's as violent as what I've been through in the last year), but probably will not go if there is real nudity.
                They may have wrecked a good story.
                JS
                Nudity!!! I didn't know Homer wrote that in the Iliad!!!:crazy:

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NapoleonRocks
                  Nudity!!! I didn't know Homer wrote that in the Iliad!!!:crazy:
                  Well, you know how Hollywood is, they assume Homer intended for everyone to be naked unless it specifically says:

                  "Hector, WHO IS WEARING CLOTHING COVERING HIS ENTIRE TORSO AND UPPER LEGS, speaks to Helen, WHO IS WEARING CLOTHING COVERING HER ENTIRE TORSO AND UPPER LEGS...."

                  JS
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dannybou
                    He had a minor role in Black Hawk Down where he had an M-16.
                    That's right, wasn't he the guy who fell out of the Blackhawk?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lance Williams
                      That's right, wasn't he the guy who fell out of the Blackhawk?
                      Yeap!
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                      • #12
                        Went and saw the movie today. I found it very good, great combat scenes and excellent special effects. I've never read the Illiad, so I don't quite know how accurate it is to the book. Achille kills Hector in single combat. Too bad 'cause he was kind of a good guy. The part I'm not sure is that Paris fires the arrows that kill Achille inside the city when the Greeks have entered. I was under the impression Achille died outside the walls. Maybe someone can clarify that for me. Another thing is the movie fails to mention that the siege lasted for 10 years. All in all a good 2 hours and 40 minutes. Heck, even my wife liked the movie! Will buy the DVD when it comes out. Waiting for King Arthur now.
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                        • #13
                          Aphrodite appealed to some Greek God to assist Paris,
                          since she owed him a favor. I forget who it was Posiden?
                          In any case, Paris did a 'Hail Mary' shot from the walls
                          and this God essencially made sure it hit Achilles.

                          Achilles KNEW it would happen, he knew he was fated to die
                          exactly that way. That was his mothers doing.

                          Still, the greatest warrior ever.
                          (at least the one w PR)

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                          • #14
                            Tsk Tsk Tsk... Combat was greatly done.. BUT (picks with the Iliad):

                            1. Ajax dueled Hector single on and they both called it a day and gave a possession to other and left the field. (With swords mind you)...

                            2. Achilles was killed during his "Hector Drag"...

                            3. The Trojan Horse is believed to have been larger (Supposedly they had to remove part of the wall to get it in...)

                            4. I'm not sure whether or not that priestess was mentioned (I think she told Paris of Achilles's heel.)

                            Other wise:

                            1. Brad Pitt did Achilles quite well with overacting... (The man was a baby and was wrapped up in himself WAY TOO much.)

                            Overall Worth seeing... Might try and take my new girlfriend to see it (What luck! A History buff AND a lover of WWII to boot. How often does THAT happen?)
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Janos
                              I'm in the same dilemma. Apparently, in addition to the violence you expect in a movie like this, there is also some nudity. if it were just the violence, I would probably go (I doubt it's as violent as what I've been through in the last year), but probably will not go if there is real nudity.
                              They may have wrecked a good story.
                              JS
                              If it makes it any easier for you one review I've read calls it "chaste" nudity, though I'm not quite sure what that means. From the review I suspect it got the R rating as much from the violence as from the "chaste" nudity.
                              Lance W.

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