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  • Was Hannibal a genius?

    Hannibal one of the greatest generals of all time though he was also an admiral. Does he qualify as a military genius? He had numerous crushing defeats over the Romans, Spaniards, Celts, and Pergamon. He won naval and land battles and never stopped fighting. His tactical masterpiece Cannae is one of the best tactical battles ever. Trasimen and Trebia are also model battles. His lesser none battles like Herdonia or Tagus River were also impressive. He wasnt deficient at siege warfare either taking, Acerrae, Tarentum, Saguntum, and numerous other cities. He crossed the Alps under attack by Celtic tribes a truly spectacular feat. His strategy of detaching Roman allies was working. The Etruria was unrestful, he took all of Bruttium, most of Magna Graecia, Tarentum and Capua plus all but one of the Samnite tribes went over to him. Rome was in dire straits having to reduce their coinage weight and lower the standards for military recruitment. 12 Latin conies could no longer send men or tribute. He fought the Rhodians in a naval battle and won Naval and land battles against Pergamon. His accomplishments are gigantic and can be extolled on for days. Do his accomplishments give him the title military genius? I of course say yes. What say you?
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    Yes he was a military genious.
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    • #3
      I believe he was a genius. He had a great run up and was undefeated until Zama, a battle he did not wish to fight and already self-predicted a loss.
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      • #4
        He didn't exactly self predict it. He knew he didn't have cavalry superiority which was a problem.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
          He didn't exactly self predict it. He knew he didn't have cavalry superiority which was a problem.
          I think he did privately. Why else would he sworn to defeat Rome since a boy urged the politicians to sue for peace?
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          • #6
            He never swore that. The supposed quote was never to be a friend of Rome synonymous with vassal. The whole supposed instance isn't very likely.
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            • #7
              Who voted no?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
                He never swore that. The supposed quote was never to be a friend of Rome synonymous with vassal. The whole supposed instance isn't very likely.
                Yes, we understand the myth part. You are being too literal. Point is, how long has Carthage and the Barcas been fighting against Rome? If he is not that eager to fight, it signals lack of faith for victory in that battle.
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                • #9
                  He was not eager to fight due to cavalry inferiority and the inferior quality of his infantry.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
                    He was not eager to fight due to cavalry inferiority and the inferior quality of his infantry.
                    I understand that part, that is why I said he did not want to fight Zama. I do not know what you are disagreeing with. Hannibal was smart and experienced enough to see the writing on wall. Or are you changing your position that Hannibal was not a genius after all?
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                    • #11
                      I'm saying he was not a defeatist. He had hope and he almost pulled it off.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
                        I'm saying he was not a defeatist. He had hope and he almost pulled it off.
                        Understood. That is why I am a Hannibal fan also. He gave it his all while some other general might have just bailed ship. It does not change the fact that he was smart enough to know he only had a long shot.
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                        • #13
                          Had he run up against anyone but Rome he'd probably be remembered as being on a par with Alexander or Genghis Khan. Might well have put an empire together that would have ranked comfortably with the great empires too.

                          Cannae is a tacticians wet dream and, as countless military men have found out, almost impossible to replicate even against the most inept opponent.

                          Lake Trasimene is enough to stamp him a genius by itself, but it says much for Hannibal that it wasn't his greatest work.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rojik View Post
                            Had he run up against anyone but Rome he'd probably be remembered as being on a par with Alexander or Genghis Khan. Might well have put an empire together that would have ranked comfortably with the great empires too.

                            Cannae is a tacticians wet dream and, as countless military men have found out, almost impossible to replicate even against the most inept opponent.

                            Lake Trasimene is enough to stamp him a genius by itself, but it says much for Hannibal that it wasn't his greatest work.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                              Understood. That is why I am a Hannibal fan also. He gave it his all while some other general might have just bailed ship. It does not change the fact that he was smart enough to know he only had a long shot.
                              Not quite a long shot but he certainly knew he didn't have the ofds this time around,
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