Baker's Dozen (Russian History Edition)

[The_Hussar]

Everything you think of when somebody asks "What's good about Russia ?"

1. Russian Politeness
2. Musicians
3. Russian Films
4. Women soldiers
5. Genetic Diversity
6. Jet Fighters


7. Russian traditional holidays

[PGT Beauregard]

Everything you think of when somebody asks "What's good about Russia ?"
1. Russian Politeness
2. Musicians
3. Russian Films
4. Women soldiers
5. Genetic Diversity
6. Jet Fighters
7. Russian traditional holidays

8. Scientists



Sergueï Korolev

[Cosmos]

Everything you think of when somebody asks "What's good about Russia ?"
1. Russian Politeness
2. Musicians
3. Russian Films
4. Women soldiers
5. Genetic Diversity
6. Jet Fighters
7. Russian traditional holidays
8. Scientists

9. Russian Opera

[PGT Beauregard]

Everything you think of when somebody asks "What's good about Russia ?"
1. Russian Politeness
2. Musicians
3. Russian Films
4. Women soldiers
5. Genetic Diversity
6. Jet Fighters
7. Russian traditional holidays
8. Scientists
9. Russian Opera

10. Red Army choir

[Dan M]

[QUOTE=PGT Beauregard;2352382]Everything you think of when somebody asks "What's good about Russia ?"
1. Russian Politeness
2. Musicians
3. Russian Films
4. Women soldiers
5. Genetic Diversity
6. Jet Fighters
7. Russian traditional holidays
8. Scientists
9. Russian Opera
10. Red Army choir

11. Mila Kunis

[ShAA]

[QUOTE=Dan M;2352598]

Everything you think of when somebody asks "What's good about Russia ?"
1. Russian Politeness
2. Musicians
3. Russian Films
4. Women soldiers
5. Genetic Diversity
6. Jet Fighters
7. Russian traditional holidays
8. Scientists
9. Russian Opera
10. Red Army choir

11. Mila Kunis

I wish people would spend a few seconds googling before posting in such threads. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mila_Kunis

She has nothing to do with Russia and she's not even ethnically Russian.

[Dan M]

I wish people would spend a few seconds googling before posting in such threads.

She has nothing to do with Russia and she's not even ethnically Russian.

I must disagree most heartily. She is ethnically Russian and speaks the language fluently. By the way, I did google her and found the information quite readily. And don't use facts on wikipedia as an argument determination tool, it makes one look weak.

Cheers,
Dan.

[ShAA]

I must disagree most heartily. She is ethnically Russian and speaks the language fluently. By the way, I did google her and found the information quite readily. And don't use facts on wikipedia as an argument determination tool, it makes one look weak.

Cheers,
Dan.

LOOOL. First of all, if you need to look simple things like if the Earth is round or celebrity bios, Wiki is pretty good. Nice try at snubbing me here.

Second, here's the IMDB database, if you refuse to believe Wiki:

The talented Milena "Mila" Markovna Kunis was born in Chernivtsi, Ukraine, USSR (now independent Ukraine), to a Jewish family. Her mother, Elvira, is a physics teacher, her father, Mark Kunis, is a mechanical engineer, and she has an older brother named Michael.

None of these names is used by ethnic Russians, unless the parents of these people were eccentric enough to call their kids this way. Her parents' names are as Jewish as it gets, and I'm not even speaking of the surname

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012...jewish-history

Actress Mila Kunis said she had to hide her Jewishness as a youngster in Ukraine and was miserable during her early years in the United States.

Britain's The Sun on Saturday published a piece quoting Kunis as saying that most of her family was killed in the Holocaust and that she had to hide that she was Jewish in Ukraine out of fear of persecution.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/actress...ewish-history/

Actress Mila Kunis opens up about Jewish history
Hid her Judaism in her native Ukraine out of fear of persecution

Just to make it clear, my issue here is not the actress, I don't care about her much. It's the irritating American habit of calling Russian everyone who was born within the range of 1000 miles away from the Russian borders and who happens to speak Russian.

[Stryker 19K30]

This guy speaks fluent Russian, I guess he is ethnically Russian too. At least he is from Russia not Ukraine.

[Dan M]

Her parents' names are as Jewish as it gets, and I'm not even speaking of the surname.

1) In the western world, we don't identify persons of Jewish heritage as Jews and not citizens. A person's religion is not identified on any identification that is issued by the government, unlike in the Former Soviet Union. So her being a Jew was, to me, immaterial. I realize now that it is of immense importance to you.

2) There were, and are, large ethnic Russian communities in all of the Former Soviet Union countries. The Ukraine, the Baltics, the 'Stans, etc, etc. They speak Russian as well as the local argot. A Russian born in Tajikastan would still identify himself as a Russian and not a Tajik.

3) In short, Mila's being Jewish and born in the Ukraine is not evidence of her not being of Russian descent.

I don't think we are going to agree on this issue, so I suggest we move on. Someone should choose the next 'What's Good About Russia."

Cheers,
Dan.

[Cosmos]

Everything you think of when somebody asks "What's good about Russia ?"
1. Russian Politeness
2. Musicians
3. Russian Films
4. Women soldiers
5. Genetic Diversity
6. Jet Fighters
7. Russian traditional holidays
8. Scientists
9. Russian Opera
10. Red Army choir
11. Mila Kunis

12. Alsou

[Cosmos]

1) In the western world, we don't identify persons of Jewish heritage as Jews and not citizens.

Cheers,
Dan.

ethnic

adjective

relating to or characteristic of a human group having racial, religious, linguistic, and certain other traits in common

My Emphasis

definition from collinsdictionary.co.uk http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dic...english/ethnic

[Stryker 19K30]

1) In the western world, we don't identify persons of Jewish heritage as Jews and not citizens. A person's religion is not identified on any identification that is issued by the government, unlike in the Former Soviet Union. So her being a Jew was, to me, immaterial. I realize now that it is of immense importance to you.

2) There were, and are, large ethnic Russian communities in all of the Former Soviet Union countries. The Ukraine, the Baltics, the 'Stans, etc, etc. They speak Russian as well as the local argot. A Russian born in Tajikastan would still identify himself as a Russian and not a Tajik.

3) In short, Mila's being Jewish and born in the Ukraine is not evidence of her not being of Russian descent.

I don't think we are going to agree on this issue, so I suggest we move on. Someone should choose the next 'What's Good About Russia."

Cheers,
Dan.

Dan - A Jew born in Tajikistan would identify himself as a Jew and not a Russian. That is how it works in Russia. We are discussing ethnicity not citizenship. Jews in Russia, Ukraine, etc. are Ashkenazi not Rus or even Slavic. You are trying to treat (ethnic) Jews as just another region, which it isn't.

Mila is not an ethnic Russian, nor did she ever live in Russia or has ever identified herself as Russian. She is an American, Soviet emigre of Ashenazi Jewish descent who was born in Ukraine. Where is the 'Russia' ?

[Stryker 19K30]

Everything you think of when somebody asks "What's good about Russia ?"
1. Russian Politeness
2. Musicians
3. Russian Films
4. Women soldiers
5. Genetic Diversity
6. Jet Fighters
7. Russian traditional holidays
8. Scientists
9. Russian Opera
10. Red Army choir
11. Mila Kunis
12. Alsou

13. Ultras

[Stryker 19K30]

Bakers Dozen of Old Slavic Gods and Mythical Creatures

1. Yarilo





Where Yarilo walks, your field gives birth.