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  • #61
    Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

    1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
    2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
    3. Nikolay Simonyak
    4. Vasily Chuikov
    5. Andrei Vlasov
    6. Ivan Konev

    7. Mikhail Kirponos



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    • #62
      Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

      1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
      2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
      3. Nikolay Simonyak
      4. Vasily Chuikov
      5. Andrei Vlasov
      6. Ivan Konev
      7. Mikhail Kirponos

      8. Nikita Khrushchev

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      • #63
        Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

        1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
        2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
        3. Nikolay Simonyak
        4. Vasily Chuikov
        5. Andrei Vlasov
        6. Ivan Konev
        7. Mikhail Kirponos
        8. Nikita Khrushchev

        9. Nikolay Vatutin

        Last edited by ShAA; 22 Jun 09, 11:08.
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        • #64
          Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

          1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
          2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
          3. Nikolay Simonyak
          4. Vasily Chuikov
          5. Andrei Vlasov
          6. Ivan Konev
          7. Mikhail Kirponos
          8. Nikita Khrushchev
          9. Nikolay Vatutin

          10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky

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          "Never pet a burning dog."

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Janos View Post
            Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

            8. Nikita Khrushchev
            Somehow, I do not recall Khrushchev being a general

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            • #66
              Originally posted by skoblin View Post
              Somehow, I do not recall Khrushchev being a general
              Political commissar with rank of LTG. Check his wikipedia site.
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              • #67
                Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

                1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
                2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
                3. Nikolay Simonyak
                4. Vasily Chuikov
                5. Andrei Vlasov
                6. Ivan Konev
                7. Mikhail Kirponos
                8. Nikita Khrushchev
                9. Nikolay Vatutin
                10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky

                11. Georgy Zhukov (too obvious?)

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                • #68
                  Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

                  1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
                  2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
                  3. Nikolay Simonyak
                  4. Vasily Chuikov
                  5. Andrei Vlasov
                  6. Ivan Konev
                  7. Mikhail Kirponos
                  8. Nikita Khrushchev
                  9. Nikolay Vatutin
                  10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky
                  11. Georgy Zhukov

                  12. Leonid Brezhnev

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Janos View Post
                    Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

                    8. Nikita Khrushchev
                    12. Leonid Brezhnev
                    Jeff...seriously dude....political commissars during the Great Patriotic War were not generals - even though their ranks could have general equivalents. They were civilian political authorities given oversight over certain units or sectors of a front. They were not given direct operational control over an army which remained with the generals in question.

                    There are so many Soviet generals not mentioned - Vatutin, Tolbukhin, Chistyakov, Yeremenko, Timoshenko, Rotmistrov, Popov, Batov, Meretskov - why can't you choose one of them?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by skoblin View Post
                      Jeff...seriously dude....political commissars during the Great Patriotic War were not generals - even though their ranks could have general equivalents. They were civilian political authorities given oversight over certain units or sectors of a front. They were not given direct operational control over an army which remained with the generals in question.

                      There are so many Soviet generals not mentioned - Vatutin, Tolbukhin, Chistyakov, Yeremenko, Timoshenko, Rotmistrov, Popov, Batov, Meretskov - why can't you choose one of them?
                      While I disagree, I will change my last one.

                      Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

                      1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
                      2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
                      3. Nikolay Simonyak
                      4. Vasily Chuikov
                      5. Andrei Vlasov
                      6. Ivan Konev
                      7. Mikhail Kirponos
                      8. Nikita Khrushchev
                      9. Nikolay Vatutin
                      10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky
                      11. Georgy Zhukov

                      12. Aleksandr Vasilevsky

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                      "Never pet a burning dog."

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by skoblin View Post
                        Somehow, I do not recall Khrushchev being a general
                        Khrushchev was made a general on June 23, 1941 and wore a uniform. This is quoted from the book that I'm currently reading...........

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Lance Williams View Post
                          Khrushchev was made a general on June 23, 1941 and wore a uniform. This is quoted from the book that I'm currently reading...........

                          http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The.../9780760334348
                          Can you provide me any info on what army he may have led? Not trying to be a stickler here, Lance....but there are so many Soviet generals worthy of giving some mention to...why mention Krushchev? Or Brezhnev for that matter.... Anyway, I am pretty certain that if one referred to K or B as actual Soviet generals to a Russian audience, they would probably scratch their heads. There is a difference between being a general on the grounds of technicalities or certain provisions established by an act of state and being an actual operational commander.
                          Last edited by Skoblin; 23 Jun 09, 11:05.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Lance Williams View Post
                            Khrushchev was made a general on June 23, 1941 and wore a uniform. This is quoted from the book that I'm currently reading...........

                            http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The.../9780760334348
                            Roger, see post #62 above -- I provided a photo of him in uniform. skoblin appears (not trying to speak for him, since I disagree) that only line generals count.

                            Recommendation: let's end the debate. Somebody name one more general and keep this moving.
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                            "Never pet a burning dog."

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Janos View Post
                              Roger, see post #62 above -- I provided a photo of him in uniform. skoblin appears (not trying to speak for him, since I disagree) that only line generals count.

                              Recommendation: let's end the debate. Somebody name one more general and keep this moving.
                              Agreed. Sorry about that Janos. Quibbling about details and definitions is a bad habit one picks up debating on Russian forums, like I do on occasion.

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                              • #75
                                Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War

                                1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
                                2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
                                3. Nikolay Simonyak
                                4. Vasily Chuikov
                                5. Andrei Vlasov
                                6. Ivan Konev
                                7. Mikhail Kirponos
                                8. Nikita Khrushchev
                                9. Nikolay Vatutin
                                10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky
                                11. Georgy Zhukov
                                12. Aleksandr Vasilevsky

                                13. Fedor Tolbukhin


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