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  • That's what I call a Polish Lancer

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    • Ewpeyia, do think, your lancer could be of some Polish Legion in foreign service?

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      • there aren't polish dragoons,but polish chasseurs a cheval in 1830 .Polish had not dragoons in XIX century.

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        • Originally posted by the Iron Duke View Post
          To be Honest, I'm a bit at a loss with your apparently Polish Lancers. I've never seen that uniforms before and I can't find anything. Is it made up?
          Honestly I don't know, as I said I copied it from a website and it was tagged 'Polish Lancer 1812'. I have never seen anything like it which is why I've asked if anyof the members have.

          It doesn't match up with any of the Polish OR Polish Legion uniforms that I've seen.

          Ed
          Last edited by ewpeyia; 06 Apr 10, 10:47.

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          • Originally posted by the Iron Duke View Post

            Polish Dragoons
            Polish 5th Regiment of Chasseurs 1812-13.

            Ed

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            • Dear Ed, there isn't 5th Regiment of Chasseurs 1812-13. There is 3rd Regiment of Chasseurs of Kingdom of Poland 1815-1831. Tsar Aleksander I Romanow was King of Poland, then Tsar Mikołaj I was King of Poland dethrone in 1831. In Kingdom of Poland (Królestwo Polskie) were four regiments of chasseurs + Regiment Royal Guard.
              In Duchy of Warsaw chasseurs hadn't eagles on shakoes and patches on collars.

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              • I've always been partial to the 6e Hussards, avec le schako rouge.

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                • I've always believed the following, that clearly shows Chasseurs or if you prefer Jagers:
                  Organization.
                  Regiments - Squadrons - Companies
                  The cavalry regiment consisted of staff and usually 3 (in 1806-1809) or 4 squadrons of two companies each. The 4-squadron regiment was commanded by colonel, major, 2 chefs d'escadron and 2 adjutants-majors. There were also standard-bearer and trumpet-major.

                  In 1810 the organization of company was as follow:
                  4 officers: captain, lieutenant and 2 sous-lieutenants
                  14 NCOs: sergeant-major, 4 sergeants, fourrier and 8 corporals
                  Others: blacksmith, 2 trumpeters and 79 privates
                  Total strength = 100 men (+ 2 enfants de troupe)

                  In November 1807 were the following regiments of regular cavalry:
                  1st Cavalry Regiment (653 men)
                  2nd Cavalry Regiment (571 men)
                  3rd Cavalry Regiment (857 men)
                  4th Cavalry Regiment (823 men)
                  5th Cavalry Regiment (943 men)
                  6th Cavalry Regiment (996 men)

                  The Poles numbered their cavalry regiments not by/within type but ą la suite.

                  In January 1809 the Polish army had the following cavalry units:
                  1st Chasseur-a-Cheval Regiment (745 men)
                  2nd Uhlan Regiment (880 men)
                  3rd Uhlan Regiment (719 men)
                  4th Chasseur-a-Cheval Regiment (??? men)
                  5th Chasseur-a-Cheval Regiment (596 men)
                  6th Uhlan Regiment (691 men)

                  In November 1809 the strength of cavalry dramatically increased by several regiments:
                  7th Uhlan Regiment (840 men in 4 sq.)
                  8th Uhlan Regiment (954 men in 4 sq.)
                  9th Uhlan Regiment (936 men in 4 sq.)
                  10th Hussar Regiment - "Golden Hussars" (803 men)
                  11th Uhlan Regiment (899 men in 4 sq.)
                  12th Uhlan Regiment (943 men in 4 sq.)
                  13th Hussar Regiment - "Silver Hussars" (1.048 men )
                  14th Cuirassier Regiment (610 men in 2 sq.)
                  15th Uhlan Regiment (916 men in 4 sq.)
                  16th Uhlan Regiment (661 men in 4 sq.)

                  In 1811 each cavalry regiment raised a depot squadron of 2 companies.
                  Due to financial difficulties in the Grand Duchy Napoleon in early 1812 took into French pay the 9th Uhlan Regiment.

                  When Napoleon liberated Lithuania (which had been part of Poland) several new regiments were organized:
                  17th Uhlan Regiment
                  18th Uhlan Regiment
                  19th Uhlan Regiment
                  20th Uhlan Regiment
                  21st Uhlan Regiment
                  Lithuanian Tartar Squadron

                  There were several regiments in the French service:
                  1st Lancer Regiment of the Guard (Old Guard)
                  3rd Lancer Regiment of the Guard (Young Guard)
                  1st Vistula Uhlan Regiment
                  2nd Vistula Uhlan Regiment
                  (Note: the Poles formed one regiment of cuirassiers but Napoleon felt that they were too expensive and suggested chasseurs or Uhlans rather than the heavies. King of Saxony (the head of the Duchy) issued decree that directed the conversion of these cuirassiers into chasseurs. Poniatowski attempted to persuade him into converting the cuirassiers into dragoons but the King repeated his statement. Poniatowski agreed but added that it will take a long time due to practical obstacles. Soon however erupted a war against Russia and there was no time and money for the conversion. The war in 1812 was followed by war in 1813 and Poniatowski kept his cuirassiers.)

                  The strength of cavalry regiments on January 1st 1813 was as follow:
                  1st Chasseurs - 219 horses and 266 men (incl. 16 in hospital)
                  2nd Uhlan - 471 horses and 484 men (incl. 3 in hospital)
                  3rd Uhlan - 594 horses and 761 men ((incl. 22 in hospital)
                  4th Chasseurs - 237 horses and 261 men (incl. 11 in hospital)
                  5th Chasseurs - 335 horses and 454 men (incl. 20 in hospital)

                  6th Uhlan - 369 horses and 436 men (incl. 10 in hospital)
                  7th Uhlan - 315 horses and 416 men (incl. 16 in hospital)
                  8th Uhlan - 256 horses and 314 men (incl. 4 in hospital)
                  9th Uhlan
                  10th Hussars - 77 horses and 186 men (incl. 18 in hospital)
                  11th Uhlan - 366 horses and 468 men (incl. 20 in hospital)
                  12th Uhlan - 440 horses and 481 men (incl. 18 in hospital)
                  13th Hussars - 448 horses and 669 men (incl. 37 in hospital)
                  14th Cuirassiers - no horses and 31 men
                  15th Uhlan - 90 horses and 201 men (incl. 20 in hospital)
                  16th Uhlan - 406 horses and 516 men (incl. 7 in hospital)
                  17th Uhlan
                  18th Uhlan
                  19th Uhlan
                  20th Uhlan

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                  • STANDARD BEARER OF THE GREAT BATON
                    of the GRAND DUCHY of LITHUANIA
                    This was an officer's rank in the Calvary Regiment
                    called the Great Baton in the Lithuanian army.
                    The uniform is slightly before Napoleonic time I think. Maybe late 18th century. I'm not sure.

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                    • Hi, I“ve been searching for a website like this for months and I“m glad I finally found it.
                      Can some of you post a picture of french Cuirassier trumpeter (that in beautiful yellow uniform) ? I found it in one book about napoleonic era, but I like to see more..thanks a lot
                      Frederick William III of Prussia - The Napoleonic Wars Campaign.

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                      • Greatest thread ever.
                        Made me join the site.

                        Much appreciated!
                        IN.HOC.SIGNO.VINCUS
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                        • Originally posted by von Aicha View Post
                          Hi, I“ve been searching for a website like this for months and I“m glad I finally found it.
                          Can some of you post a picture of french Cuirassier trumpeter (that in beautiful yellow uniform) ? I found it in one book about napoleonic era, but I like to see more..thanks a lot
                          Here's some.

                          Ed
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                          • And here is an alternate style



                            Paul
                            ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
                            All human ills he can subdue,
                            Or with a bauble or medal
                            Can win mans heart for you;
                            And many a blessing know to stew
                            To make a megloamaniac bright;
                            Give honour to the dainty Corse,
                            The Pixie is a little shite.

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                            • While we are talking about Cuirassiers, I would like to say that French Cuirassiers and Carabiniers, indeed any Cuirassiers, are my favourite cavalry. Not because of their skill, but simply because the way they look.

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                              • Thank you, Ed and Paul, that“s exactly what I wanted
                                Frederick William III of Prussia - The Napoleonic Wars Campaign.

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