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  • Rifles... again!

    Anyone had a go at this one, I'm thinking of adding it to my collection?

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    The long toll of the brave
    Is not lost in darkness
    Over the fruitful earth
    And athwart the seas
    Hath passed the light of noble deeds
    Unquenchable forever.

  • #2
    Haven't seen that one, VR. Sorry I can't help you with it.

    I did, however, just download a book on French General Delort-he's the one that said 'several' (not a dozen) allied squares were broken at Waterloo...

    ...along with what Pilloy said he road over and through...

    Sincerely,
    M
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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    • #3
      Don't start that again, that Delort's a right dumpling...
      To 'fink I woz just starting to like yer again after that comment about smacking Abdul Hook with a rifle butt!

      The long toll of the brave
      Is not lost in darkness
      Over the fruitful earth
      And athwart the seas
      Hath passed the light of noble deeds
      Unquenchable forever.

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      • #4
        Aw, c'mon, VR, aren't we still mates?

        Sincerely,
        M
        We are not now that strength which in old days
        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Von Richter View Post
          Anyone had a go at this one, I'm thinking of adding it to my collection?

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          Unlike the fiction that is being read this thread, the Story of Plunkett is a must read about, not only his shooting abilities but also his dancing and skylarking antics. Oh yes! and his bad boy antics, brought on by drink.

          PS. George Caldwell is the best author on the subject so you cant go wrong with this tome.


          Paul
          Last edited by Dibble201Bty; 14 Oct 12, 13:15.
          ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
          All human ills he can subdue,
          Or with a bauble or medal
          Can win mans heart for you;
          And many a blessing know to stew
          To make a megloamaniac bright;
          Give honour to the dainty Corse,
          The Pixie is a little shite.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Massena View Post
            Aw, c'mon, VR, aren't we still mates?

            Sincerely,
            M
            Oh, all right then, you've talked me into it, but only if you know the answer to this... what part of the battlefield was both General Delort and Pilloy on/describing when they made their claims. Anywhere near the square of the Inniskillings?

            The long toll of the brave
            Is not lost in darkness
            Over the fruitful earth
            And athwart the seas
            Hath passed the light of noble deeds
            Unquenchable forever.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dibble201Bty View Post
              Unlike the fiction that is being read this thread, the Story of Plunkett is a must read about, not only his shooting abilities but also his dancing and skylarking antics. Oh yes! and his bad boy antics, brought on by drink.

              PS. George Caldwell is the best author on the subject so you cant go wrong with this tome.


              Paul
              Cheers Dibs, been in touch with George Caldwell about them 95th books... him and his mate aren't exactly fans of that Mark Urban fellow are they!?

              The long toll of the brave
              Is not lost in darkness
              Over the fruitful earth
              And athwart the seas
              Hath passed the light of noble deeds
              Unquenchable forever.

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              • #8
                What are these claims of squares being broken?

                (and another bloody book to add to my ever so long 'to get' list)
                Cymru am Byth

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kevinmeath View Post
                  What are these claims of squares being broken?
                  General Delort, claimed 'several' British squares were broken by the French Cavalry charges. Pilloy went one better and tells of personally galloping over and through the 'wreckage' of a broken English square.

                  The long toll of the brave
                  Is not lost in darkness
                  Over the fruitful earth
                  And athwart the seas
                  Hath passed the light of noble deeds
                  Unquenchable forever.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Von Richter View Post
                    Cheers Dibs, been in touch with George Caldwell about them 95th books... him and his mate aren't exactly fans of that Mark Urban fellow are they!?

                    Well, If you have read Urban's book then read all of the Caldwell and Cooper's tomes, you will see why!

                    Paul
                    ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
                    All human ills he can subdue,
                    Or with a bauble or medal
                    Can win mans heart for you;
                    And many a blessing know to stew
                    To make a megloamaniac bright;
                    Give honour to the dainty Corse,
                    The Pixie is a little shite.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Von Richter View Post
                      General Delort, claimed 'several' British squares were broken by the French Cavalry charges. Pilloy went one better and tells of personally galloping over and through the 'wreckage' of a broken English square.

                      And lets not forget that Pilloy 'just so happened' to charge over and through these squares whilst charging with a Cuirassier regiment that was not his own! Make of that what you like!

                      If all the squares that were alleged broken and witnessed by French eyes or rumours ((De Brack himself says that though he was told that several squares were broken, he never personally saw any broken, in fact he noted their bravery)) then we can safely say that a divisions worth were alleged to have been broken.

                      Paul
                      ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
                      All human ills he can subdue,
                      Or with a bauble or medal
                      Can win mans heart for you;
                      And many a blessing know to stew
                      To make a megloamaniac bright;
                      Give honour to the dainty Corse,
                      The Pixie is a little shite.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Von Richter View Post
                        General Delort, claimed 'several' British squares were broken by the French Cavalry charges. Pilloy went one better and tells of personally galloping over and through the 'wreckage' of a broken English square.

                        And British regimental histories don't mention this because? uumm? cover up their actual defeat at Waterloo?

                        After all 'they covered' up the running down and the capture of a colour at Quatre Bras din't they? well actually no.

                        I've read many books on Waterloo over the years (all in English of course so I presume its a plot by the 'Roast Beefs') but never heard of a square being broken.

                        Even the 'dead' Irish held formation, if my understanding of the period is correct breaking a square was very rare in any campaign/ battle let alone breaking 'many' of them and especially redcoat ones.
                        Cymru am Byth

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                        • #13
                          No squares were broken, here's documentry evidence...

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                          The long toll of the brave
                          Is not lost in darkness
                          Over the fruitful earth
                          And athwart the seas
                          Hath passed the light of noble deeds
                          Unquenchable forever.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Von Richter View Post
                            No squares were broken, here's documentry evidence...

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                            Great research Von!

                            It also shows proof that the 23rd Fusiliers wore furry ats'... Oh! and where are the Dutch and Belgians? All buggered off no doubt!

                            Paul
                            ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
                            All human ills he can subdue,
                            Or with a bauble or medal
                            Can win mans heart for you;
                            And many a blessing know to stew
                            To make a megloamaniac bright;
                            Give honour to the dainty Corse,
                            The Pixie is a little shite.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kevinmeath View Post
                              Even the 'dead' Irish held formation, if my understanding of the period is correct breaking a square was very rare in any campaign/ battle let alone breaking 'many' of them and especially redcoat ones.
                              Yup! Your brave 27th Inniskillings lost 17 short of 500 men of 700 effectives on the day without flinching.

                              Paul
                              ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
                              All human ills he can subdue,
                              Or with a bauble or medal
                              Can win mans heart for you;
                              And many a blessing know to stew
                              To make a megloamaniac bright;
                              Give honour to the dainty Corse,
                              The Pixie is a little shite.

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