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  • ivopreda
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    Originally posted by ONIRIA View Post
    ..as you will see below the painting is his "Croix d'Honneur"
    AS far as I’ve been able to sort out, the scente can take place after the battle of Austerlitz:. I came to this conclusion because of weather conditions in the terrain, the captured Austrian flag, the dome of church in the background looks like it’s the Augezd church.
    If we agree that the Battle is Austerlitz there are several things that don’t match (could be simply artistic license), and would like to your opinion:

    The unit of the soldier being decorated is unknown to me. It looks like an Empress dragoon uniform, but in 1805 this unit did not exist. I guess it’s a AL from the painter but, what unit could it be?
    The General in blue looks like it could be Mural, but I haven’t been able to find any picture or painting with Mural wearing a similar uniform. Another AL? If we agree that he’s Murat, is there any reacord of how he was dressed during the battle of Austerlitz?

    The General with the cape and long white hair is also a mistery to me. Do you think he could be a real character, or simply made up?

    The mameluke hodling Napoleon’s horse doesn’t look like his personal bodyguard Roustan Raza, and the uniform seems a bit “unique”. What’s your opinion on this fellow?

    Well that’s about all..
    I would really thank you for all the input and opinions you could give me

    Best regards
    Angel
    this picture is full of artistic license...

    the decorated man seems a cuirassier before the port of the cuirass ( 1803 regiments received the cuirass)
    the regiment is on the background, holster cannot be with yellow lace but white
    Murat has an uniform quite fantasy. never existed. It's a combination of the marshal full dress coat ( in the snow?) and some AL like the vertical pockets
    the officer with long hairs can be Bessieres, the only that maintained the revolutionary cutting style for the hairs
    the Mameluck can be Raza Roustan that never had an uniform but always wore oriental style habits. strange are the moustache
    Napoleon doesn't wear the legion d'onor as usual for him
    the Napoleon saddle is completely wrong, never see something similar

    it's a AL adaptation of a battleflag capture...

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Two Austerlitz Bicorns

    An N.C.O's





    And an officers





    Paul

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  • ONIRIA
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    Cheers Arthur.
    Thanks u for your help.
    Angel

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Originally posted by ONIRIA View Post
    Thanks you for your help Guys.
    Do you agree that the guy in front of Naopleon could be Murat?
    Any idea of what uniform he could be wearing?
    It is indeed meant to be Murat. I'll have a search through my references of him to see if he had such a uniform. Somehow, I don't think I'll find its like.

    Paul

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  • ONIRIA
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    Thanks you for your help Guys.
    Do you agree that the guy in front of Naopleon could be Murat?
    Any idea of what uniform he could be wearing?

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Originally posted by gboue View Post
    Artistic license, certainly but the dragoon like soldier could also be a "guide de l'état major" according Boisselier they could have worn red epaulettes.

    Behind Napoleon the ADC seems to be dressed as a "gendarme d'ordonnance" which didn't exist during the Austerlitz campaign.

    For the white haired general, Maréchal Bessières could be the best guess.

    Hope it helps

    Gboue
    Perhaps 'in this rather fanciful painting, the white haired chap is Kellermann and the Dragoon meant to be of the 4th regiment but he has depicted a 1st regiment type with elite epauletts to boot. The saddles are depicted with yellow braid (should be white) and what's with the yellow plume? If it is meant to be the 1st, then the plume should be red or green with red tip. If the 4th, the plume should be white. Anyway, Woodville's paintings should be taken with a pinch of salt as he didn't have the extensive knowledge and access to period uniforms that his his European counterparts did.

    Paul
    Last edited by Dibble201Bty; 12 Feb 16, 13:56.

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  • gboue
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    Artistic license, certainly but the dragoon like soldier could also be a "guide de l'état major" according Boisselier they could have worn red epaulettes.

    Behind Napoleon the ADC seems to be dressed as a "gendarme d'ordonnance" which didn't exist during the Austerlitz campaign.

    For the white haired general, Maréchal Bessières could be the best guess.

    Hope it helps

    Gboue

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  • ONIRIA
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    PICTURE: Richard Caton Woodville's "Croix d'Honneur"

    ..as you will see below the painting is his "Croix d'Honneur"
    AS far as I’ve been able to sort out, the scente can take place after the battle of Austerlitz:. I came to this conclusion because of weather conditions in the terrain, the captured Austrian flag, the dome of church in the background looks like it’s the Augezd church.
    If we agree that the Battle is Austerlitz there are several things that don’t match (could be simply artistic license), and would like to your opinion:

    The unit of the soldier being decorated is unknown to me. It looks like an Empress dragoon uniform, but in 1805 this unit did not exist. I guess it’s a AL from the painter but, what unit could it be?
    The General in blue looks like it could be Mural, but I haven’t been able to find any picture or painting with Mural wearing a similar uniform. Another AL? If we agree that he’s Murat, is there any reacord of how he was dressed during the battle of Austerlitz?

    The General with the cape and long white hair is also a mistery to me. Do you think he could be a real character, or simply made up?

    The mameluke hodling Napoleon’s horse doesn’t look like his personal bodyguard Roustan Raza, and the uniform seems a bit “unique”. What’s your opinion on this fellow?

    Well that’s about all..
    I would really thank you for all the input and opinions you could give me

    Best regards
    Angel

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  • ONIRIA
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    , Richard Caton Woodville's "Croix d'Honneur" part IV

    The thing is I would be grateful if you could give me your expert opinion on a Napoleonic painting by Canton Woodville …. (to be continued)

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  • ONIRIA
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    , Richard Caton Woodville's "Croix d'Honneur" part III

    ..before I can get to the point ….(to be continued)

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  • ONIRIA
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    Richard Caton Woodville's "Croix d'Honneur" apart II

    …I ‘ll just have to write my request in several ones …. (to be continued)

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  • ONIRIA
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    Richard Caton Woodville's "Croix d'Honneur" part I

    Hi all,

    I’ve been using this forum as a research tool for some years now, and now I find myself in the need to post a picture.

    It looks like you can only post pics after 5 posts so…(to be continued...)

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  • repd
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    Originally posted by debrito View Post
    Good morning to all

    I will be interested to have some references for the uniform (very detailed) of the 7em Régiment des Hussards, if someone has anything, please let me know.

    Best regards
    Rod.
    Go to google pictures and type 7em Régiment des Hussards then you will get all pictures that are on the internet ready to download

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  • debrito
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    Good morning to all

    I will be interested to have some references for the uniform (very detailed) of the 7em Régiment des Hussards, if someone has anything, please let me know.

    Best regards
    Rod.

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Whilst I'm at it!

    Here are some pictures of an original 60th Rifles officers tunic (c.1808)




    Paul

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