All things UNIFORMS (including modelling questions related to uniforms)

[95th Rifles]

A Very Wonderful & Useful Site!

More stuff on the Airfix game...

Description of the Battle;

http://vintagewargaming.blogspot.co....e-1975_24.html

Construction & painting guide;

http://vintagewargaming.blogspot.co....game-1975.html

and the Game rules;

http://vintagewargaming.blogspot.co....975-rules.html

A Thousands thanks for this link, "General Brock"! I only wish I could give you another "Rep" point for it - but sadly, "computer says NO" *@$*!

Never mind the link for the "Waterloo Wargame" - The links to the entire Airfix Wargaming Pages are absoloutely BRILLIANT & very, very HANDY - I have ear-marked this page for future reference.

An Excellent POST!

[General Brock]

Never mind the link for the "Waterloo Wargame" - The links to the entire Airfix Wargaming Pages are absoloutely BRILLIANT & very, very HANDY - I have ear-marked this page for future reference.

Me too...

[napschasseur]

mounted or dismounted

Here's something to keep the conversation going:

I'm trying to figure out how to setup some French Dragoons from Perry Miniatures. I've decided the mounted figures will be based in twos, but it's the dismounted figures I'm not sure of. Should these dismounted figures be put on the bases in pairs, as if in squadrons (and like skirmishers), or four to a base like the line and guard infantry? And, how historically accurate would this preserved formation be?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.

Regards,
WCBT

[Nappyfan]

What set of rules and figure scale are you using?

[napschasseur]

I'd like to stay with 28mm for figure scale.

My friends and I have been using Black Powder, Lasalle and a few others that are similar for rules. Most of these tend to standardize the unit size as related to their base size. This is easy enough to figure out when you know the unit is infantry or cavalry or artillery, but the Dragoons are a little different. They rode and charged in squadrons, but did they maintain this formation on foot or did they combine squadrons to form something closer to a company in size?

Regards,
WCBT

[Nappyfan]

Actually for figure scale I meant 1:50 or 1: 20 that sort of thing. My
understanding is that BP rules dont rely heavily on a specific figure scale so
long as both sides are similar.

There are some instances of semi-permanently dismounted dragoons being
formed up as infantry and their numbers in a regt (4 sqdns) were similar to
those of an Infantry Regt so they were clearly heavily reinforced when this
was done as their numbers were far less when mounted.

French cavalry had 2 companies per squadron, 3-4 sqdns per regt. This
would mean 8 companies per regt as opposed to the infantries 6 companies
per battalion. When operating as dismounted cavalry, Dragoons had 1 in
4-5 as a horse holder. I havent been able to find out how they actually
fought, but I suspect because of the relatively smaller numbers in a
mounted squadron that when operating dismounted they would have to
stay in squadron to ensure enough men to maintain some formation with
safety.

I would have the Dragoons mounted in the same numbers as dismounted by
ignoring horse holders and have them fight in 4 sqdns rather than the 8
companies. For permanently dismounted dragoons, I would have them
based as per a normal french infantry battalion but with 8 companies. Of
course all this is highly opinionated and I am sure whatever you feel suits
your level of "need for historical accuracy" will be fine.

[napschasseur]

Thanks for your insight and opinion Nappyfan.

You brought up some good back ground and confirmed some points that I was familiar with. The battles we've fought haven't had any dragoons yet, but I’ve been looking at bring some to the field. You're comments will defiantly be considered when it comes to putting them on bases.

Any other question if you would indulge me, please.
I actually haven’t had a chance to read through any rules, but have there been any rule sets that accommodate the Dragoons’ transition between moving on horse back and then dismounting and fighting as infantry? And could this be represented by two sets of figures (mounted/dismounted) on the table or would this get too confusing?

Thanks again.

Regards,
WCBT

[Nappyfan]

I just noticed I referred to the French having 6 companies per Battalion, of
course this would be after 1808. Before that you would need to check the
date because there were at least two different organisations for infantry
companies per Battalion that I know of.


I am not very familiar with lots of rules, but most US Civil War sets deal with
dragoons mounted and dismounted, so if your fav nappy set dont do it well
enough try incorporating the Civil Rules specific to Dragoons as an amendment.


I dont think having two per base would be that confusing so long as the
opposition were aware. It might prove to be better to be two based if you
want horse holders to be allowed for. However, if you could, I think the
standard 3 or 4 based sub-units might avoid some niggling little problems.

[napschasseur]

Thanks Nappyfan.
Again You bring up some good points. Looks like I'll have to do a little more research on how effective the French Dragoons (or any dragoons) were when mounted as compared to dismounted.

Regards,
WCBT

[napschasseur]

Production

The title of this thread implies that models of our favourite era might be a point of discussion (or presentation). So here's my small contribution.

This Grenadier is 120mm built many moons ago, but it is on display in a local hobby shop.

[VieuxChat]

very nice job napschasseur.

My own work (still in progress) with Perry 28mm old guard:

[Nappyfan]

Very nice, VC. I am waiting for someone to do them in full dress (plastic).

It is enjoyable to look at other painting styles and to take away some new ideas. Thanks.

[napschasseur]

Thanks VieuxChat.
Your pieces are looking very good too. I've not worked on anything so small, but I'd like to for the gaming my friends and I do. Till then, I’ve got a few more Historex pieces to keep me busy. If only I turned off the computer once in a while.

Regards,
WCBT

[Duc de Abrantes]

Duroc first aide-de-camp of Napoleon

So, gentlemen, let's go to an Hamletic doubt. Which version of uniform would you choose to create a 54 mm miniature of Duroc, first aide-de-camp of Napoleon first consul on 1800? Rigo proposes a total blue uniform considering that Duroc had been an artilleryman. But there is an engraving by Isabey and Carle Vernet in which the colors are red, black and white. Who was right in your opinion?

[95th Rifles]

A Small & Short Tribute to René Betgem: “Mr Waterloo”

I first came across the following amazing and incredible “Waterloo” Website quite some years ago. But, when I looked for it again, it had disappeared and gone! Lost Forever, I thought! Fortunately, and quite by accident, I’ve only just found it again, the other day, and I thought it would be appropriate to share it with all the very nice people here at this wonderful ACG.

I’ve only added a few images to this POST, as a little taster or teaser, because I would prefer you all to visit this wonderful, brilliant and amazing website, yourselves.

“Mr Waterloo”, is quite probably the best miniature modeller, and figure-painter, around these days, and the results of his skills and art, have to be seen to be believed – I just thought I ought to bring him to all your personal attentions, via the following three links:

http://www.hand-painted-soldiers.com/index.html

or:

http://www.hand-painted-soldiers.com...ndpainted.html

And the Miniatures Waterloo Page:

http://www.hand-painted-soldiers.com...oo__2010_.html

Have fun & enjoy!