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  • Luzitanos
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    Originally posted by Dibble201Bty View Post
    many thanks
    who want paper figures of carabiners
    can find me in
    http://www.pinterest.com/franciscojmrodr/napoleon-era/

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Yes it would.

    http://tmg110.tripod.com/frarmy5.htm

    Paul

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  • Luzitanos
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    thanks
    if I understand correctly it will like this

    http://uploads.ru/2OyGE.png

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    From:

    Flags and Standards of the Napoleonic Wars. by Keith Over

    "As with the infantry arm there was no real standardisation of design for
    cavalry standards at the beginning of our period. Dragoons had guidons of the
    usual two-tailed shape, colours varying according to the squadron. The guidon
    for the 1st squadron of the 4th regiment was white with broad border of
    alternate blue and red squares. Lettering and grenades were gold. The guidon of
    the 4th squadron of the same regiment was red with a gold border, the
    inscriptions being the same as the 1st squadron. A drawing of a standard for
    hussars in 1803 shows a guidon with a simple semi-circular fly. The standard was
    divided horizontally, blue upper, red lower. The central device was a green,
    tightly-packed laurel wreath bound top and bottom with two turns of tricolour
    ribbon. The area within the wreath was white with a cock in natural colours,
    looking to the left, with wings partly displayed (like the imperial eagle) and
    standing on a golden trumpet. A tricolour ribbon lay across the bottom of the
    standard passing over the laurel, behind the trumpet and over the other arm of
    the laurel. This bore the inscription REPUBLIQUE to the left and FRANÇAISE
    to the right of the laurel wreath. A scrollwork border in gold near the edge of the
    standard terminated in gold grenades in the staff side corners, and it had a gold
    fringe. A standard for the Cuirassiers of the same period was blue, and bore in
    the centre a cuirasse of Romanesque pattern in silver with red undercloth. Above
    this was a golden Romanesque helmet. The whole central motif was flanked by
    green laurel sprigs crossed at the bottom in the normal way. Above the helmet
    was a tricolour ribbon bearing the inscription REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE.
    Below the laurel was another tricolour ribbon bearing the inscription:— (Number
    of Squadron) ER ESCADRON. A border of gold scrollwork had corners bearing
    the regimental number, the standard had a gold fringe on those three sides not
    attached to the staff.
    The standards of 1804 were the same pattern as for the infantry. Two types
    were used by the cavalry; square (60cm. by 60cm.) and guidon (60cm. by 70cm.).
    Some individual examples are given below:—
    The square standard of the first Cuirassiers bore in the corner wreaths the
    numeral I
    The inscriptions were:—
    L'EMPEREUR/DES FRANÇAIS/AU 1er REGIMENT/DE CUIRASSIERS
    and on the other side:—
    VALEUR/ET DISCIPLINE/2eme ESCADRON
    The eagle bore the numeral I on the plinth. The 23rd regiment of Dragoons had
    a guidon (see illustration 65) in the usual colours.
    The square standard of the 1st regiment of Hussars was the same design as
    that for the Cuirassiers with the inscription:—
    L'EMPEREUR/DES FRANÇAIS/AU 1er REGIMENT/DE HUSSARDS
    Inscription on the other side was exactly the same as the Cuirassier standard. All
    the regulations concerning the design and allocation of flags applied to the
    infantry were also applicable to the cavalry and other arms. In 1812 the tricolour
    standards of the cavalry were simply scaled-down versions of the infantry flag.
    Those of the first and second regiments had the following inscriptions:—
    L'EMPEREUR/NAPOLEON/AU (number of regiment) REGIMENT/DE
    CARABINIERS
    on the other side the battle honours for both regiments were as follows:—
    AUSTERLITZ/JENA/EYLAU/FRIEDLAND/ECKMUHL/WAGRAM
    The following list gives the battle honours for the other regiments of line cavalry"

    Paul

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  • Luzitanos
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    hi i am making the carabiners in paper
    any one know the regimental flag of 1st regiment carabiniers before 1812 changes?


    http://uploads.ru/IVovM.png

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  • blaster
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    Originally posted by Dibble201Bty View Post
    Well Victor,

    If you mean these,...



    ....then I'm sorry but I haven't got a clue. They seem to be a form of mitre type cap

    Paul
    Thanks. I have just noticed the slight differences in costume details between the two images accompanied by the dates, presumably each was for a different occasion? Coronation first, then 2nd wedding?

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Originally posted by marktwain View Post
    Was that strictly for formal use, or would some version have been worn in the field?
    Well, Uxbridge wore this pelisse....



    .... and these breeches, still splattered with mud, on that fateful day at Waterloo where he commanded the Allied Cavalry and of course, he lost his leg.



    The Pelisse of his in the first picture I posted and that you are alluding to, is of post Napoleonic war cut and part of a full dress uniform that would have have cost the modern day equivalent of tens of thousands of £'s. Mind you, so would his campaign dress.

    Paul
    Last edited by Dibble201Bty; 10 Jun 14, 22:49.

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by Dibble201Bty View Post
    Well rado,

    Do you mean this?



    It's the same as this worn by Lt General Henry William Paget.



    It's a Lt General commander in chief of cavalry in hussar style dress uniform. Lt General Stapleton Cotton, is depicted in a similar dolman of the same colour (though with a different colour pelisse) but he 'unlike Vane' wears campaign breeches.

    Here is the (Henry William Paget) Earl Uxbridge's Pelisse.



    Paul
    Was that strictly for formal use, or would some version have been worn in the field?

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Originally posted by rado282879 View Post
    hi to all i have question about an interesting british napoleonic uniform


    this is lord londonderry adjutant-general to lord welington
    can someone tell me more about the uniform he is depicted on with
    any pictures will be very helpfull thank you in advance
    regards rado
    Well rado,

    Do you mean this?



    It's the same as this worn by Lt General Henry William Paget.



    It's a Lt General commander in chief of cavalry in hussar style dress uniform. Lt General Stapleton Cotton, is depicted in a similar dolman of the same colour (though with a different colour pelisse) but he 'unlike Vane' wears campaign breeches.

    Here is the (Henry William Paget) Earl Uxbridge's Pelisse.



    Paul
    Last edited by Dibble201Bty; 10 Jun 14, 14:02.

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Originally posted by blaster View Post
    Hi Paul,

    Sorry for the late reply.

    I can see why my query would lead you to think dragoons...

    I was referring to the Bucquoy book on Napoleon's coronation, where a courier costume is featured.

    Rgds Victor
    Well Victor,

    If you mean these,...



    ....then I'm sorry but I haven't got a clue. They seem to be a form of mitre type cap

    Paul

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  • blaster
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    Originally posted by Dibble201Bty View Post
    Is it, for instance in his Dragons et Guides book? And what page is the illustration on?

    Paul
    Hi Paul,

    Sorry for the late reply.

    I can see why my query would lead you to think dragoons...

    I was referring to the Bucquoy book on Napoleon's coronation, where a courier costume is featured.

    Rgds Victor

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  • rado282879
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    hi to all i have question about an interesting british napoleonic uniform


    this is lord londonderry adjutant-general to lord welington
    can someone tell me more about the uniform he is depicted on with
    any pictures will be very helpfull thank you in advance
    regards rado

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  • Dibble201Bty
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    Originally posted by blaster View Post
    Hi All,

    I have the Bucquoy books and in one of them, a courier in a green costume is represented. I am intrigued by the headress and are there any other pictures representing this costume, front and back? I am planning to do a model of this figure if possible.

    Rgds
    Victor
    Is it, for instance in his Dragons et Guides book? And what page is the illustration on?

    Paul

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  • blaster
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    Courier for Napoleon's Coronation dress

    Hi All,

    I have the Bucquoy books and in one of them, a courier in a green costume is represented. I am intrigued by the headress and are there any other pictures representing this costume, front and back? I am planning to do a model of this figure if possible.

    Rgds
    Victor

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  • swift'n'bold
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    Thanks Dibs. I thought that would be the case but wasn't certain. Knew I could count on you!

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