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  • 23 Blast
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    When I was a 8th grade kid, we went to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Washington, D.C. The guards there take their duty very seriously. My class was there to assist in the laying of the wreath, and prior to the ceremony, some idiot decided to light up a cigarette (this was back in 1988, when smoking everywhere was still relatively commonplace). The guard quickly turned to the offending party and put his rifle at port arms, shouting "SMOKING AT THE TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER IS PROHIBITED!!"

    Thankfully the moron was embarrassed and quickly stubbed out his butt. Would have been interesting if he insisted on his "right" to keep smoking.

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  • Bass_Man86
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    Originally posted by Sign&Print Name View Post
    From The Belfast Telegraph

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-31332710.html

    "A lone Guardsman has now scared off a pestering tourist in a video that will hopefully go a long way in ensuring Her Majesty's body guards get a bit more respect".
    Serves that dipstick right. I went to Rome in 2014 and I was appalled at the level of disrespect of some of the tourists inside Saint Peter's; it may be a tourist attraction but it is a church first and foremost. The behavior of some of those people was quite irritating.

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  • jf42
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    Originally posted by phil74501 View Post
    I'm not sure where you got that I was implying they needed an armed escort. I was replying to a comment by jf42 where he/she said "a man in a fur cap with an empty SA86 and a stubby bayonet can only do so much." I was simply asking if the guards at one place are armed with live weapons, wouldn't the guards at another place be armed with live weapons as well.
    Under extraordinary circumstances, should there be a specific threat, I have heard that guardsmen might be issued with live rounds, but I don't know if that has ever happened and I am not sure whether that is even accurate. Ordinarily guardsmen are not issued with live ammunition. I am afraid the Yeoman Warder must have been saying something to thrill the audience. Not that it hurts to keep people guessing.

    Apart from the fact that only firearms-trained police and counter terrorism units are empowered to deploy lethal force on the streets of Britain, there is the remote possibility that some one might try wrest a weapon from the hands of a guardsman. Gradually they have been creating more distance between the public and the sentries. I believe there is a rope barrier now at Windsor Castle. Until the 1960s the sentries at Buckingham Palace were outside the main gate.

    JF (Mrs)

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  • johns624
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
    So you finally posted a pic of yourself? You look just like I imagined.

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  • phil74501
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    This is a funny one I came across. It's actually in Norway. You have to watch all the way to the end. But it's worth it, you can tell the guard knew exactly what he was doing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uR0Eid9rWU

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  • phil74501
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    Originally posted by the ace View Post
    The weapon is fitted with a magazine, and the army doesn't like empty magazines - I'd assume it's loaded, but the safety catch is on.

    As to the other point, the day when the Guards need an armed escort is a day you will never see. That pr*ck is still alive because he wasn't worth a bullet, not because the soldier couldn't do anything about it.
    I'm not sure where you got that I was implying they needed an armed escort. I was replying to a comment by jf42 where he/she said "a man in a fur cap with an empty SA86 and a stubby bayonet can only do so much." I was simply asking if the guards at one place are armed with live weapons, wouldn't the guards at another place be armed with live weapons as well.

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  • jf42
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    It's not a question of the guard requiring an escort. Count how many men are in fact posted in front of the Place, and consider the lone guardsman in the video. Regardless of the infantry skills of those men and their colleagues nearby, they are effectively there for show. The rest of the guard aren't poised at observation slits waiting to deply for action. They are not trained to deploy lethal force in the context of a Royal building or public monument where crowds of civilians are gathered. If any serious threat emerges, there are teams of police appropriately armed and trained, and with the powers, to deal with the situation.

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  • the ace
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    Originally posted by phil74501 View Post
    I've watched several videos of the tours the Yeoman Warders give at the Tower of London. In those videos, more than once, the Yeoman Warder said that the rifles the guards were carrying were live... meaning loaded. If the guards at the Tower have loaded rifles, couldn't/wouldn't the guards at Windsor have live weapons as well?
    The weapon is fitted with a magazine, and the army doesn't like empty magazines - I'd assume it's loaded, but the safety catch is on.

    As to the other point, the day when the Guards need an armed escort is a day you will never see. That pr*ck is still alive because he wasn't worth a bullet, not because the soldier couldn't do anything about it.

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  • phil74501
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    Originally posted by jf42 View Post
    It's a pretty common occurrence. The layout of the yard at Windsor Castle, and the gateway at the Horse Guards, with no barrier between tourists and the guardsmen does mean that tourists are tempted to take the píss.

    I saw a Scots Guardsman scare bejasus out of a woman who approached the deadline in front of the Guard Room at Windsor. There was visceral roar as he brace and presented his SLR with fixed bayonet under her nose. I swear she was airborne as she recoiled.

    They love it. It's a welcome break of tension in the midst of the tedium and irritation of Public Duties. The guardsmen are young soldiers like the rest of the infantry, but as the Sovereign's escort, on constant public display, protecting the dignity of the institution as much as the sovereign's person, the Guards brigade does have deeply instilled discipline and traditions honed over the years. However, a man in a fur cap with an empty SA86 and a stubby bayonet can only do so much. If something serious went amiss, men in dark blue equipped with serious rata-tat-tat would appear out of nowhere.

    There was the incident when a mounted Household Cavalry officer laid about some malintended charlie with his sword but that was a one off.
    I've watched several videos of the tours the Yeoman Warders give at the Tower of London. In those videos, more than once, the Yeoman Warder said that the rifles the guards were carrying were live... meaning loaded. If the guards at the Tower have loaded rifles, couldn't/wouldn't the guards at Windsor have live weapons as well?

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  • jf42
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    It's a pretty common occurrence. The layout of the yard at Windsor Castle, and the gateway at the Horse Guards, with no barrier between tourists and the guardsmen does mean that tourists are tempted to take the píss.

    I saw a Scots Guardsman scare bejasus out of a woman who approached the deadline in front of the Guard Room at Windsor. There was visceral roar as he brace and presented his SLR with fixed bayonet under her nose. I swear she was airborne as she recoiled.

    They love it. It's a welcome break of tension in the midst of the tedium and irritation of Public Duties. The guardsmen are young soldiers like the rest of the infantry, but as the Sovereign's escort, on constant public display, protecting the dignity of the institution as much as the sovereign's person, the Guards brigade does have deeply instilled discipline and traditions honed over the years. However, a man in a fur cap with an empty SA86 and a stubby bayonet can only do so much. If something serious went amiss, men in dark blue equipped with serious rata-tat-tat would appear out of nowhere.

    There was the incident when a mounted Household Cavalry officer laid about some malintended charlie with his sword but that was a one off.

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  • Massena
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    I hadn't seen it.

    Absolutely perfect. The Guardsman did his duty and the little puke who was mocking him put his hand on him.

    Well done.

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  • the ace
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    I've seen the clip before.

    These guards may wear elaborate uniforms on ceremonial duty, but they're elite troops, trusted with protecting the Queen. That idiot is lucky to be alive.

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  • johns624
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
    That punk should have been bayonetted.
    A nice little poke to see a couple drops of blood would have done it.

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  • 101combatvet
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    That punk should have been bayonetted.

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