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  • Iron Dome

    Thought a discussion of this weapon might be illuminating.

    For those who need to be brought up to speed, Iron Dome is a system of radars, fire control computers, and missles for intercepting rockets, missiles and other unwanted stuff in the air. It accquired recent publicity by intercepting a impressive number of rockets fired from the Gaza area into Isreal. Some folks are just gushing over some really impressive statistics.

    http://www.rafael.co.il/Marketing/18...Marketing.aspx

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles...aels-iron-dome

    http://www.google.com/search?client=...iw=985&bih=609


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome


    Here is a less ethusiastic view

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...scaled-up.html

    I am sure other folks have something to add.

  • #2
    I was impressed by Iron Dome's recent successes too.

    Which caused me to look up how the missiles identify, maneuver, and hit their targets. Mainly, I was intrigued to know if the missiles actually impact their targets or just explode nearby.

    Like the OP indicated, lots of technical details about the system are available on the web.


    Philip
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."— Bertrand Russell

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    • #3
      Would it intercept mortar rounds?
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      • #4
        I'd assume so since the land based versions of Phalanx used by the US to defend the Green Zone in Baghdad were able to. However only the longest range mortars would be able to reach far enough into Israel to threaten more than a few sites.
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        • #5
          Well, the C-RAM is a gun based system and Iron Dome is a missile system. Russia makes 120 mm mortars and that's good for 7-12 km.
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          • #6
            We heard a bit about THEL a few years ago.

            http://www.as.northropgrumman.com/pr...hel/index.html

            Anyone having anything beyond the usual Google search results?

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            • #7
              The system seems to be pretty effective, but I'm not sure about the figures as some websites say it's managed to intercept 90% of rockets and other say about 60%.

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              • #8
                Like any weapon system I have a sneaking suspicion that it's reliability will decrease in proportion to the number of orphanages, hospitals, school buses and Chinese embassys in the target zone.
                "Sometimes its better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness" T Pratchett

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                • #9
                  CRAMs did a good job of intercepting both rockets and mortars. And it gave a fun light show at the same time. The only downside is if you were unlucky to be near it when it went off, you might have to change your underwear.

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                  • #10
                    Great weapon for use in protection of strategic installations and areas.

                    An utter waste of money in it's current employment.
                    Does more harm than good.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Golani View Post
                      Great weapon for use in protection of strategic installations and areas.

                      An utter waste of money in it's current employment.
                      Does more harm than good.


                      Good point. I have heard it has the ability to prioritize targets according to the where the rockets will land.

                      It is a very expensive system and as long as it is used to target just high priority targets and not just squandered on any rocket that the enemy lobs at you the cost should be justified.

                      The recent coverage that both the IronDome and David's Sling has received should sgenerate much interest from potential buyers. Already India and the U.S are showing a keen interest. There is a talk of an Indian requirement of 4 regiments @three batteries per regiment. At this point am not certain how the 4 regiments will be split up between the Iron dome and David's sling.

                      India already uses The Israeli made Spyder and Barak1 SAM and is jointly developing two types of SAMS with Israel.

                      http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/17329499.cms
                      http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=247684
                      Last edited by Slim; 02 Dec 12, 04:34.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Slim View Post

                        Good point. I have heard it has the ability to prioritize targets according to the where the rockets will land.
                        Correct.

                        However, it doesn't have the ability to anticipate objects along the way.
                        That's how, I assume, the building i Rishon Le'Zion with 3 wounded was hit, the rocket was supposed to land in open grounds but the building was on it's way...

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                        • #13
                          What about Nukes? Can the Iron Dome intercept them?
                          You, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace, after having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.

                          -- Ataturk

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Crackshot View Post
                            What about Nukes? Can the Iron Dome intercept them?


                            I do not think that should be a problem . If my understanding is correct Iron Dome is suited for shorter range projectiles including tactical battlefield missiles while the David's sling is for longer ranged strategic missiles and cruise missiles

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Crackshot View Post
                              What about Nukes? Can the Iron Dome intercept them?
                              Israel's developing a layer system to intercept everything from ICBM with NBC warheads to mortar rounds. The Iron Dome is meant to intercept short-medium range rockets and missiles.

                              The Arrow 3 is supposed to be the one capable of intercepting ICBM's carrying nuclear warheads.

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