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  • ACW-Debunking the Tariff Myth

    Hi

    Hope this of some interest:-
    The outbreak of the American Civil War is now more than 150 years past. All the while, the question of what caused the conflict continues to spark disagreement, this despite a longstanding consensus among specialists that slavery – a cultural, political, ideological, and economic institution that permeated (and divided) mid-19th-century American society – was the primary cause of the war. One of the most egregious of the so-called Lost Cause narratives instead suggests that it was not slavery, but a protective tariff that sparked the Civil War.

    On 2 March 1861, the Morrill Tariff was signed into law by outgoing Democratic President James Buchanan to protect northern infant industries. A pernicious lie quickly formed around the tariff’s passage, a lie suggesting that somehow this tariff had caused the US Civil War. By ignoring slavery’s central role in precipitating secession and Civil War, this tariff myth has survived in the United States for more than a century and a half – and needs to be debunked once and for all.
    Full article here:- http://imperialglobalexeter.com/2015...r-tariff-myth/

    Regards

    Andy H
    "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Churchill

    "I'm no reactionary.Christ on the Mountain! I'm as idealistic as Hell" Eisenhower

  • #2
    7 Southern states secede BEFORE the Morril Tariff is passed......NO Southern states secede immediately after it passed. The article does a good job of debunking that myth that we have discussed many times before.
    The muffled drums sad roll has beat the soldier's last tatoo. No more on life's parade shall meet that brave and fallen few.

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    • #3
      Love the comments further down the page:


      Kevin Osborn

      July 6, 2015 at 4:59 pm


      Apparently there is no end to Liberal history revisionism. You people never cease to amaze me. The war started over tariffs is historical FACT. And if you think for a minute white people from north or south would fight and die for slaves, is on its face ludicrous and you know it. Please keep your fantasy to yourself.


      It never ends.
      Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by R. Evans View Post
        Love the comments further down the page:






        It never ends.
        There are multiple terms for people like Mr. Osborn, unfortunately some tool put a censor in place here and they won't print!

        People most certainly did fight and die for and against slavery in the ACW. To state otherwise is to totally deny reality. But, then again, that is what folks like this guy do best.

        Regards,
        Dennis
        If stupid was a criminal offense Sea Lion believers would be doing life.

        Shouting out to Half Pint for bringing back the big mugs!

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        • #5
          As an outsider to the ACW it's interesting to read alternate origins to the war. In modern text books it is slavery that caused the war and that is the accepted reason, and this is was confirmed by an American friend a few years ago. However, a number of sources state that it was the right for each state to set its own laws over the Federal Governments rights to set the laws for them. You have to remember that the Emancipation Proclamation was not made until 01/01/1863, effectively two years into the war, so it was not an immediate reason for the war. However, it has been recorded as a war to end slavery but it continued to exist as an institution in the America until 1888 when it was finally abolished in Brazil.

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          • #6
            that right was to own slaves.

            you need to do more background reading on the subject. It's not a simple subject but it still comes down to slaves.

            Brazil is Brasil and while being in the Americas is not America. Only one country is recognized by sane people as being America.
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #7
              I'll read a bit further into the war. Apologies for any offense.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DragonSergeant View Post
                As an outsider to the ACW it's interesting to read alternate origins to the war. In modern text books it is slavery that caused the war and that is the accepted reason, and this is was confirmed by an American friend a few years ago. However, a number of sources state that it was the right for each state to set its own laws over the Federal Governments rights to set the laws for them. You have to remember that the Emancipation Proclamation was not made until 01/01/1863, effectively two years into the war, so it was not an immediate reason for the war. However, it has been recorded as a war to end slavery but it continued to exist as an institution in the America until 1888 when it was finally abolished in Brazil.
                Ummm, what does the existence or lack of slavery in Brazil have to do with the American Civil War? When the Emancipation Proclamation was issued has nothing to do with whether or not slavery was the cause of the American Civil War.

                Regards,
                Dennis
                If stupid was a criminal offense Sea Lion believers would be doing life.

                Shouting out to Half Pint for bringing back the big mugs!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Andy H View Post
                  Hi

                  Hope this of some interest:-

                  Full article here:- http://imperialglobalexeter.com/2015...r-tariff-myth/

                  Regards

                  Andy H
                  Just another misleading blog to me.
                  In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.
                  Robert E. Lee

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by B7B Southern View Post
                    Just another misleading blog to me.
                    Hi B7B Southern

                    There are Blogs and there are Blogs.
                    Blogs written by professional journaled historians like (Dr)Marc Palen have more gravitas than one written by a Mr or Mrs Interested Party.

                    He's written extensively on the matter and some of his other work can be seen here https://www.academia.edu/ though you have to be a member.
                    If your not I'll gladly access some files for you.

                    In terms of your initial remark, what is misleading about what he's wrote?

                    Regards

                    Andy H
                    "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Churchill

                    "I'm no reactionary.Christ on the Mountain! I'm as idealistic as Hell" Eisenhower

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                    • #11
                      Welcome DragonSergeant to the study of the ACW!!!!

                      It is a common error even among US citizens to believe the war was commence so as to end slavery. It is now accepted among authorities of the subject that the ACW had commenced over the issue of slavery in the western territories. However, it does not translate into being the tactical military/political goal during the said ACW to end slavery. That goal was the restoration of the Union. The Federal Government only arrived at the destruction of slavery upon the rising level of anger among Unionists over the mountain of the dead from the cost of that said restoration. That resulted in the Emancipation Act as a war measure imposed upon the southerner slaveholders as it was they who were responsible for those deaths. There were simply not enough high morally responsible persons in US to simply declared slavery destruction and then remove it, for a simple moral reason, by way of a political/military measure. Ironically, Lincoln was a closet abolitionist. Upon coming out of the closet, he would later be shot in the head.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Andy H View Post
                        Hi B7B Southern

                        There are Blogs and there are Blogs.
                        Blogs written by professional journaled historians like (Dr)Marc Palen have more gravitas than one written by a Mr or Mrs Interested Party.

                        He's written extensively on the matter and some of his other work can be seen here https://www.academia.edu/ though you have to be a member.
                        If your not I'll gladly access some files for you.

                        In terms of your initial remark, what is misleading about what he's wrote?

                        Regards

                        Andy H
                        Misleading in that it names slavery as the primary cause of the war.
                        Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Andy H View Post
                          Hi B7B Southern

                          There are Blogs and there are Blogs.
                          Blogs written by professional journaled historians like (Dr)Marc Palen have more gravitas than one written by a Mr or Mrs Interested Party.

                          He's written extensively on the matter and some of his other work can be seen here https://www.academia.edu/ though you have to be a member.
                          If your not I'll gladly access some files for you.

                          In terms of your initial remark, what is misleading about what he's wrote?

                          Regards

                          Andy H
                          The whole truth.
                          In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.
                          Robert E. Lee

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bo Archer View Post
                            Welcome DragonSergeant to the study of the ACW!!!!

                            It is a common error even among US citizens to believe the war was commence so as to end slavery. It is now accepted among authorities of the subject that the ACW had commenced over the issue of slavery in the western territories. However, it does not translate into being the tactical military/political goal during the said ACW to end slavery. That goal was the restoration of the Union. The Federal Government only arrived at the destruction of slavery upon the rising level of anger among Unionists over the mountain of the dead from the cost of that said restoration. That resulted in the Emancipation Act as a war measure imposed upon the southerner slaveholders as it was they who were responsible for those deaths. There were simply not enough high morally responsible persons in US to simply declared slavery destruction and then remove it, for a simple moral reason, by way of a political/military measure. Ironically, Lincoln was a closet abolitionist. Upon coming out of the closet, he would later be shot in the head.
                            The yankees sold all their slaves to the South in return for their cotton and then tried to steel both away which was illegal.
                            In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.
                            Robert E. Lee

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DragonSergeant View Post
                              As an outsider to the ACW it's interesting to read alternate origins to the war. In modern text books it is slavery that caused the war and that is the accepted reason, and this is was confirmed by an American friend a few years ago. However, a number of sources state that it was the right for each state to set its own laws over the Federal Governments rights to set the laws for them. You have to remember that the Emancipation Proclamation was not made until 01/01/1863, effectively two years into the war, so it was not an immediate reason for the war. However, it has been recorded as a war to end slavery but it continued to exist as an institution in the America until 1888 when it was finally abolished in Brazil.
                              There are two sides in every war. While the North issued the EP in September of 62, the South explicitly stated that IT left mainly over the issue of slavery. Your American friend was right on the money.
                              The muffled drums sad roll has beat the soldier's last tatoo. No more on life's parade shall meet that brave and fallen few.

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