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  • #16
    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
    If you had wanted to see Micks misbehaving, you should have attended a combo NYPD/FDNY decoration day ceremony at Bryant Park. Suffice to say, it was so bad that the City has since ceased combining the two events: each service gets their own ceremony on their own day. But when it was combined, it was a riot, on par with any Puerto Rican parade.

    And not a one of 'em was ever prosecuted.



    Part of the problem is that the Isles haven't put too many good teams on the ice in recent years. That hurts, too. That being said, Lawn Guylanders have never supported the Isles like New Yorkers have backed the Rangers, and as Long Island gets swarthier, the question becomes, how will this new development (are they looking to do it in Uniondale again?) pay for itself, and if it can't, doesn't that mean that Nassau Co's taxpayers are on the hook for it?

    The other problem is that Long Island, as it's existed for the last 60-plus years, is it's Bob Moses' creation: it's extremely car-reliant. After seeing the Devils' debacle in the swamp, I've come to the belief that car-reliant regions cannot support those kinds of developments. Seeing LI gently decline in recent years, I see no reason to amend my analysis.
    Ah yes the NYPD vs FDNY rivalry. Back in the old days the FD used to duke it out with the cops over rescue work at car accidents (the firefighters thought that the NYPD ESU was encroaching on their turf).

    Im not sure if the referendum is going to be a shoe in. Im thinking it's 50/50 at this point. My grandma lives right near where it's planned in Uniondale/Hempstead and she is not in favor. She already has enough trouble dealing with all the Hofstra students who rent houses in the neighborhood. In fact, I now have some doubts since I had lunch at the Chipotle across the street from Nassau Coliseum and I will gruelingly admit that while it will bring jobs and housing the amount of traffic would be a disaster. How will it pay for itself? Well that's the thing ... Nassau County property taxes would go even higher but now that NIFA controls the county's finances perhaps they will make some broad cuts and lower the taxes to a more reasonable level.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
      Ah yes the NYPD vs FDNY rivalry. Back in the old days the FD used to duke it out with the cops over rescue work at car accidents (the firefighters thought that the NYPD ESU was encroaching on their turf).
      While in high school I made the mistake of doing research at the library on decoration day a couple of times, and both times I got into dust-ups with firemen -- who, while not as arrogant as cops, are infinitely greater drinkers, and way more combative. Quick feet and a waiting subway definitely came in handy.

      Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
      How will it pay for itself?
      I'd love to see the market research on that one. I mean, hasn't LI commercial real estate been depressed for years?

      Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
      Well that's the thing ... Nassau County property taxes would go even higher but now that NIFA controls the county's finances perhaps they will make some broad cuts and lower the taxes to a more reasonable level.
      What can Nassau Co cut realistically? The tax base is aging, so if schools are cut, that might make LI less attractive to families, thus jeopardizing the desperately-needed revitalization of the tax base. If transportation is cut, that will render LI less attractive to businesses and residents alike. The only thing left to cut are the cops -- but LI's reigning Archie Bunkers won't take too kindly to being left to the tender mercies of their melanin-enhanced neighbors. What is to be done to save the birthplace of the American suburb?

      I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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      • #18
        I know it's political suicide due to the power of the PBA and other police unions but it's time to disband both county police departments. They cost too much, and we can get a much higher level of patrol coverage from town and village police departments for the same or less cost. The county sheriff's departments can handle highway patrol, the parks, and the specialized units like aviation, marine, SWAT, etc. In fact the village of Laurel Hollow just opted to end it's contract with the NCPD which assigned .5 patrol car (it was shared with the village of Cove Neck) per shift to the village in favor of contracting with the neighboring Oyster Bay Cove Police Dept. which has promised 1.5 cars per shift at a $1 million less per year.

        As for the firefighters, the Long Island volunteer firefighters are the absolute worst, way worse than the NYPD. Im sure you have heard about their antics.
        Last edited by ChrisF1987; 17 Jun 11, 18:44.

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        • #19
          ^ Yeah, I've always wondered how Nassau and Suffolk Co's can pay their cops so much more than anyone else: more that The City, more than anyone in NJ, the PAPD, Westchester, Rockland, NYS, the FBI! Hasn't anyone on LI asked that, or do the Nassau and Suffolk PBA's keep guns pressed against all of your backs?
          I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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          • #20
            Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
            ^ Yeah, I've always wondered how Nassau and Suffolk Co's can pay their cops so much more than anyone else: more that The City, more than anyone in NJ, the PAPD, Westchester, Rockland, NYS, the FBI! Hasn't anyone on LI asked that, or do the Nassau and Suffolk PBA's keep guns pressed against all of your backs?
            It's an open secret that they essentially bribe the county legislature and other politicians with promises to vote for or against them until they get what they want. Bear in mind that due to their size they hold a big influence over politics ... their votes often make or break an election.

            There's also alot of corruption and immoral practices going on but I suppose it happens in every government agency. Now it's not on the scale of like the NYPD back in Serpico's days but it's somewhat common and deeply rooted among the old timers. Remember the Marty Tankleff case from the late 1980s?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Duncan View Post
              It's like people didn't realise everyone and their dog has a camera-phone.
              Good stuff Duncan! I really like that some of the idiots were taking pictures of themselves while rioting.
              If you can't set a good example, be a glaring warning.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Freightshaker View Post
                Good stuff Duncan! I really like that some of the idiots were taking pictures of themselves while rioting.
                And then posted them on Facebook

                You would be amazed at how useful Facebook is in terms of crime fighting. Apparently Facebook has a special account they can let cops access that can circumvent privacy settings.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
                  And then posted them on Facebook

                  You would be amazed at how useful Facebook is in terms of crime fighting. Apparently Facebook has a special account they can let cops access that can circumvent privacy settings.
                  One more reason I'm glad I dont have facebook.
                  Ha, wie so stolz und hehr
                  Wirft über Land und Meer
                  Weithin der deutsche Aar
                  Flammenden Blick.

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