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  • Cap. Teancum
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    Sorry to hijack this thread but we need all off you football lovers to take part on the Mock Draft thread.
    Please find your way there and do post on it.

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  • D1J1
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    There are no sure things in my book. Of course some play to expectations, but many do not, as the Baker's Dozen segment of first round flops shows.

    The consistently successful teams are those who find diamonds in the rough in lower rounds. Then there is this; one year the Steeler's number 1 prompted this headline in the local paper: "JOE WHO???" in the largest font possible.

    That man of course was Joe Greene, arguably the most dominant defensive tackle in the history of pro football. It can be a door that swings both ways.

    Regards,
    Dennis

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  • Cap. Teancum
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    If you start it, I'm game.
    As for Tebow, I'm sure you've the most sound aproach on this matter, I'm just blabing out of passion.
    I'm sure there's very little room for gambling among the teams that had poor results last year...
    If the 49ers would get him, I would be happy.

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  • The Ibis
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    Originally posted by Cap. Teancum View Post
    To be honest, I'm on the opposite side from you on Tebow. I loved to watch him and the Gators. I do think he has a strong leadership and if I would give him a serious opportunity to show what he can do in the Pros. He's not a conventional QB, so what? Build a team around him. It's a risk, I know, but how much worst can a 1-15 or 2-14 team get?
    Well a team that is 2-14 can't get much worse, but they might not improve either - which is just as bad. In any case, it won't be a top of the draft team that takes him if its in round 1. It will be someone like New England or even Indy who can afford the time to develop him. If he slips to round 2, then it could be anyone really.

    Anyone have interest in doing a mock draft thread?

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  • Cap. Teancum
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    To be honest, I'm on the opposite side from you on Tebow. I loved to watch him and the Gators. I do think he has a strong leadership and if I would give him a serious opportunity to show what he can do in the Pros. He's not a conventional QB, so what? Build a team around him. It's a risk, I know, but how much worst can a 1-15 or 2-14 team get?

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  • The Ibis
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    Originally posted by Cap. Teancum View Post
    I pitty the fools that will let Suh go... I don't care how much a team can have a need for QB or a WR. If you can go first and you don't take Suh, there's something very wrong with the way your drafting. That kid is pure talent and I think he'll be a legend in the Pros. McCoy (the one from OU, not the QB from Texas) is also very good, but I'm with Suh all the way.
    I would love to see, someone pulling a Jets move (2009 draft) and move top to get him.
    I mean no disrepect to the QBs, Sam, Colt and why not Tim... but players like Suh don't come around that often.
    The draft is such an inexact science. I thought Suh was unbelievable, and I worried about Bradford as too much of a system qb, who has also shown some durability concerns. I suppose I'm with you, but let me give you a crazy stat I just heard - top 5 defensive linemen bust at an even higher rate than quarterbacks.

    As for Tebow, I just heard former Cowboy asst. gm/player personnel legend Gil Brandt say he thinks Tebow will go in the first round. I was somewhat surprised by that, because not only cannot I not stand him (since he's a Gator), but his throwing motion is not good (although he is supposedly working hard to correct this). Still, Brandt focused on the fact the guy is an unbelievable leader, a winner, and apparently came across ridiculously well in his interviews at the combine. By the way, I think Brandt is at about 95% on his last few years' mock drafts, so he is pretty good at analyzing/guessing these things.

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  • Cap. Teancum
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    I pitty the fools that will let Suh go... I don't care how much a team can have a need for QB or a WR. If you can go first and you don't take Suh, there's something very wrong with the way your drafting. That kid is pure talent and I think he'll be a legend in the Pros. McCoy (the one from OU, not the QB from Texas) is also very good, but I'm with Suh all the way.
    I would love to see, someone pulling a Jets move (2009 draft) and move top to get him.
    I mean no disrepect to the QBs, Sam, Colt and why not Tim... but players like Suh don't come around that often.

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  • R. Evans
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    Originally posted by D1J1 View Post
    I think Dennis Dixon can play, and Charlie Batch is a fine backup. I wouldn't go QB in the draft if I were them if Roethlisberger does go into the slammer.

    Even if he isn't charged, there is no way being that stupid can be simply a gift.........he must also practice to hone his mental incompetence to that high a level.

    As Bugs would say, "What a maroon!"

    Regards,
    Dennis
    I think you're right on your backups, Dennis. Dixon just needs some playing time and Batch is far better than usually given credit for. In fact it wouldn't surprise if he's not coaching somewhere when his playing days are through. He strikes me as that kind of player. Smart!

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  • D1J1
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    Originally posted by The Ibis View Post
    The Steelers might want to think about a quarterback. Big Ben might be spending some time as a guest of the State of Georgia if the allegations out there have any merit.
    I think Dennis Dixon can play, and Charlie Batch is a fine backup. I wouldn't go QB in the draft if I were them if Roethlisberger does go into the slammer.

    Even if he isn't charged, there is no way being that stupid can be simply a gift.........he must also practice to hone his mental incompetence to that high a level.

    As Bugs would say, "What a maroon!"

    Regards,
    Dennis

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  • R. Evans
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    Originally posted by The Ibis View Post
    Is he bringing Ron Wolfe out of retirement?
    No, the original Curt Warner!

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  • The Ibis
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    Originally posted by R. Evans View Post
    Probably.

    With the Browns obtaining Seneca Wallace, a career backup in Seattle, and having 11 draft picks, 9 in the first 5 rounds, I booking my reservations to the Super Bowl. Holmgren will lead us to the promised land!
    Is he bringing Ron Wolfe out of retirement?

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  • R. Evans
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    Originally posted by dgfred View Post
    Wonder if Derek Anderson will get a new gig now?
    Probably.

    With the Browns obtaining Seneca Wallace, a career backup in Seattle, and having 11 draft picks, 9 in the first 5 rounds, I booking my reservations to the Super Bowl. Holmgren will lead us to the promised land!

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  • The Ibis
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    Originally posted by D1J1 View Post
    Since the combine is under way, its time. Lots of fans of different teams here, so why don't we start by discussing our favorites moves so far and needs.

    STEELERS:

    UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS:

    Casey Smith/NT, Jeff Reed/K, Ryan Clark/S

    NEED:

    D-line: sewed up Casey Hampton to remove immediate stress at nose tackle and Aaron Smith is completely healthy. Unless Ziggy Hood is a complete bust this is now lower priority.

    K: Reed is franchised. I don't think anyone, well, maybe Al Davis or Dan Snyder, is dumb enough to give up 2 #1s to sign a free agent kicker. Reed is among the best, if not the best, on field goals. Perhaps a longer kick off specialist is needed though.

    DB: Absent signing Clark they may want to look at safeties, especially if their opinion is the kid from WV can't cut it as a starter. Was last year an aberration at corner? Maybe not. Look for people who can cover and catch, not just run fast! Second priority.

    ILB: IMO, it should be their third priority. Age is a factor here.

    Running back: They have a short shelf life on the whole. I'm also not sold on Mendenhall from the ears up. Fourth priority.

    O-line: Roethlisberger has to take the blame for some of the sacks, but far too many were caused by a complete inability to protect. Priority one at all positions, especially left tackle. IMO Starks should change his last name to Sieve!

    Regards,
    Dennis
    The Steelers might want to think about a quarterback. Big Ben might be spending some time as a guest of the State of Georgia if the allegations out there have any merit.

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  • dgfred
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    Wonder if Derek Anderson will get a new gig now?

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  • The Ibis
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    Originally posted by dgfred View Post
    I'm now thinking Bradford may be picked by the Rams as the first pick.
    They very well might. If they rate Bradford even with Suh or McCoy, they've got to take the qb - unless they can convince Washington to come up and get him.

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