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  • Can "Johnny Football" improve?

    Hey folks,

    While Manziel did not shine in all of last nights game against Cincinnati, there were some notable flashes of brilliance from Manziel.

    In the first 30 minutes, Manziel completed 11 of his first 18 passes, including a few drops (we're looking at you, Taylor Gabriel) for 128 yards and a pretty TD-pass-on-the-move to rookie running back Duke Johnson as Manziel bought time with his feet, slid to his right and found Johnson for the score that cut the lead to 14-10 with 19 seconds remaining in the half.


    ....

    Did we learn much about Manziel Thursday night? We saw that he can go down the field, as he did in a career-long 92-yard drive, and command an offense in an important spot. We also learned that he has yet to string four good quarters together in a single game.

    He's way ahead of where he was when he started against the Bengals last season. But we're no closer to figuring out if Manziel is, or deserves to be, the starter going forward without question.


    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...050729214.html

    So how about it, can "Johnny Football" improve and if so, to how much of an extent?
    Last edited by Taieb el-Okbi; 06 Nov 15, 15:20. Reason: included link

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    Can "Johnny Football" improve?

    Not without a massive attitude adjustment.
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    • #3
      That, better O-Line play, better reads from him, stay in the pocket (if one) a little better and better coaching and play calling most of all.
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      Hey TeO... what you noticed last night was a pretty good defense adjusting at half time to a mediocre offense, average QB, below average O-Line, and below average WR/RB. Heck... even their decent punter was sucking eggs last night.

      The offense has had 6 offensive coordinators in 6 years... not to mention the different GMs and such.

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      • #4
        Few teams have excelled at picking QB flops to the degree the Browns have. Manziel is one of the athletic quarterbacks I spoke against in another thread. No, the talent level is not there IMO.

        Now, he may turn into a so-so NFL QB. But he will never become an elite signal caller.

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        • #5
          Johnny Football is good enough to be the best backup QB for any team in the league.
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          • #6
            No!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by dgfred View Post
              That, better O-Line play, better reads from him, stay in the pocket (if one) a little better and better coaching and play calling most of all.
              Quit drinking

              Find new girlfriend

              Hey TeO... what you noticed last night was a pretty good defense adjusting at half time to a mediocre offense, average QB, below average O-Line, and below average WR/RB. Heck... even their decent punter was sucking eggs last night.

              The offense has had 6 offensive coordinators in 6 years... not to mention the different GMs and such.

              *A few teams playing to ruin my Dolphins of '72 perfect record... uh oh.

              Good points. I for one find that Manziel can improve on his play, not so sure about how good Manziel can become though..going to need more time for that one.

              The browns are struggling this year and I feel for coach Pettine. Pettine had success as the Bills defensive coordinator in 2013, I would have liked to see Pettine stay with the Bills.

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              • #8
                Yes he can improve if he changes his attitude but even if he does he will ever reach greatness.
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                • #9
                  Nope. As a lifelong Browns fan, his being drafted by the Browns ranks right up there with such mistakes as Trent Richardson, Brandon Weeden, and Mike Junkin. He doesn't have the talent for the NFL plus (or minus) he's a first class punk.
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                  • #10
                    He's right up there with Ryan Leaf!
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                    • #11
                      I am reminded of a Keanu Reeves Football Movie called the "Replacements". A reporter asked Gene Hackman what his team needed to come back in the second half and win? Hackman thumped his chest and said "You gotta have heart!"

                      I don't think anyone accused Johnny Football of ever having heart...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                        I am reminded of a Keanu Reeves Football Movie called the "Replacements". A reporter asked Gene Hackman what his team needed to come back in the second half and win? Hackman thumped his chest and said "You gotta have heart!"

                        I don't think anyone accused Johnny Football of ever having heart...

                        Pruitt
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                        • #13
                          Both Manziels teammates and coaches are saying that Johnny football is improving,

                          There are plenty of people who aren’t going to trust Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel based on what they’ve seen so far.

                          But at least one of his teammates who watches him every day says that Manziel appears to have learned from his most recent two-game benching for lying to coaches about his bye-week partying.

                          “I definitely think he is starting to see it,” tight end Gary Barnidge said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “It has shown in the way he is playing on the field, in practice and in the game and everything else. He’s just going to keep learning. He’s a young guy. He is going to keep learning and keep maturing as he gets older. That is a credit to him, too. We are going to be behind him no matter what, too.”


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                          • #14
                            Yes... they found a remedy.

                            Just bang his head repeatedly on a tablet .

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                            • #15
                              I have a feeling that Manziel will be a Cowboy next year. Jerry Jones really, really like him and almost wasted a 1st round draft pick on him last draft. He won't pass on another chance to get Johnny Football, if Cleveland is willing to trade him.
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