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  • dgfred
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    Great post Maggie.

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  • Persephone
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    Originally posted by Phebe View Post
    I'm watching 49ers and Bears Sunday night 9/14, and am amazed the 49ers are letting Ray McDonald No. 91 play despite his beating up his pregnant girlfriend at a birthday party she held for him, attended by other 49ers. The police were called and McDonald got free on $25,000 bond and has apparently not yet been charged (this was in late August) pending investigation, whatever that means.

    I don't understand how they let him out on bond if he really wasn't charged: I thought they have to charge you or let you go.

    I don't understand why the 49ers are letting this monster play when Greg Hardy, Adrian Peterson, and Ray Rice have all been deactivated. Does anyone have any ideas?

    I've decided to start rooting for the Bears. Well, anyone but San Francisco.

    It's no secret I am a 49ers fan.... If there is evidence to prove Ray McDonald did hurt his fiance, then I will support disciplining him. I am also a fan of due process. When did we start punishing people based on hearsay? So let's just wait and see before condemning the guy. In the meantime, I don't see any problem with him playing, as long as he has not been charged.

    Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice and Greg Hardy were either convicted or there is overwhelming evidence against them. Until Ray McDonald is charged, I won't be demanding his suspension or deactivation. After the investigation concludes, if it is proven that Ray DID hurt his fiance, then BRING IT ON!

    I don't want this to encourage disgruntled girlfriends or ex-wives to ruin a guy's future over false accusations. I have many girlfriends who would do such a thing.
    Not that this is the case but any female who wants to hurt a guy just have to instigate some sort of altercation either verbal or physical and threaten the athlete with going to the media, before you know it someone's career has been destroyed.

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by Martok View Post
    Too bad the league couldn't handle Tim Tebow...I mean that guy actually prayed and praised God and conducted himself as a gentleman and did first hand charity work for children.

    Wouldn't want any of that in the NFL right now! Might make the thugs look bad...
    Yeah, these days the NFL looks more like the waiting room at the parole office on the first of the month than anything else.

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  • Martok
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    Originally posted by Phebe View Post
    Good. Get rid of them all, immediately. Get smarter players people can cheer for in good conscience. I can't cheer for a bunch of cruel animals who like to beat up women and toddlers!!
    Too bad the league couldn't handle Tim Tebow...I mean that guy actually prayed and praised God and conducted himself as a gentleman and did first hand charity work for children.

    Wouldn't want any of that in the NFL right now! Might make the thugs look bad...

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  • Persephone
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    Wow...another player is in trouble for assaulting a child. The NFL have some housecleaning to do.


    Arizona Cardinals running back Jonathan Dwyer has been arrested on assault charges, including aggravated assault and preventing someone from calling 911, it was revealed Wednesday evening.

    Dwyer was being booked into the Maricopa County Jail on Wednesday on one count of aggravated assault causing a fracture, one count of aggravated assault involving a minor, two counts of criminal damage, one count of preventing the use of a phone in an emergency, and assault, police said.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/nfl...ssault-n205781

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  • Phebe
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    Originally posted by Persephone View Post
    Yep, do a internet search on what Budweiser did. THAT is why Peterson has been re-suspended overnight.
    Whoa. Thank you, Persephone.

    Budweiser Pushes Back at the NFL

    Wall Street Journal (blog)-3 hours ago

    AB InBev, whose Budweiser brand is about as American as football itself, said it was “not yet satisfied with the league's handling of behaviors ...

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  • Persephone
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    Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
    There you go. Cut the cash and you'll see them change real fast.

    Myself I can't justify the amount of money these clowns make, nor the amount of money the fans pay...

    Yep, do a internet search on what Budweiser did. THAT is why Peterson has been re-suspended overnight.

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by dgfred View Post
    Did you play football in HS?
    Yeah. Not all that great at it. Even if I had the drive, I didn't have the skill to go all that far. I was better at basketball, but again not great.

    I didn't go out for a team in college-no point in that. The guys riding the pine were better than I ever was.

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  • dgfred
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    Did you play football in HS?

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by dgfred View Post
    No excuses at all but some points.

    Another factor to consider is how these men have been treated their entire life since PeeWee Football.

    They do what they want, act like they want... and get by in school and outside because of their talents. Not all, but some.

    You have guys that have been given everything... being told off/fussed at/scolded/ etc by a woman. Probably not used to that at all.

    Plus I do not see how such a violent sport would not make 'some' people more violent in everyday life. You are taught (and people respond to) to smash, break, run-over, etc your opponent... many fans enjoy the violence as much as anything else.

    The money is not so much a factor if you consider that the average NFL career is 3 or 4 years.

    The money is with the NFL and the Owners.
    You're putting the cart before the horse on the violence, IMO. Football doesn't make people violent; violent people thrive in certain positions in football. I'm not saying that makes them bad, but there is a certain personality type that is needed to inflict harm on others. In addition, to make the cut to the NFL you need a powerful personal drive. I expect we all know talented athletes who could have made pro if they ad just applied themselves more.

    You're spot on about the money. The players are just a commodity; the real money is made off the field.

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  • dgfred
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    No excuses at all but some points.

    Another factor to consider is how these men have been treated their entire life since PeeWee Football.

    They do what they want, act like they want... and get by in school and outside because of their talents. Not all, but some.

    You have guys that have been given everything... being told off/fussed at/scolded/ etc by a woman. Probably not used to that at all.

    Plus I do not see how such a violent sport would not make 'some' people more violent in everyday life. You are taught (and people respond to) to smash, break, run-over, etc your opponent... many fans enjoy the violence as much as anything else.

    The money is not so much a factor if you consider that the average NFL career is 3 or 4 years.

    The money is with the NFL and the Owners.

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  • HMS Jr.
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    Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
    There you go. Cut the cash and you'll see them change real fast.

    Myself I can't justify the amount of money these clowns make, nor the amount of money the fans pay...

    The latter is what justifies the former, 'Bwa.

    The revenue; and from all sources, to the teams dictates the pay players receive in large degrees.

    Each team is allocated to spend $133M on salaries, combined and tops at present.

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
    There you go. Cut the cash and you'll see them change real fast.

    Myself I can't justify the amount of money these clowns make, nor the amount of money the fans pay...
    I can't either. and the sickness extends downward through college ball into high schools.

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  • Phebe
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    The news just put on a headline that 12 NFL players have had arrests for domestic violence!

    Time for another Tweet on #BoycottNFL, I decided. I wasn't the first with the complaint about this, somebody else beat me to it.

    And another said earlier that 84 NFL players have had domestic violence arrests since 2000.

    Okay, I begin to see why they didn't want to ban these guys. Because it's going to decimate the NFL, Roman-style, every tenth guy out.

    Good. Get rid of them all, immediately. Get smarter players people can cheer for in good conscience. I can't cheer for a bunch of cruel animals who like to beat up women and toddlers!!

    I had no idea the situation was this bad. Nobody did. I guess I should have realized they were playing with plain criminals after the Michael Vick thing.

    This is going to tear up Fantasy Football, too, and that became commercialized and has big money in it also. The ad industry depends on the NFL, the TV industry depends on NFL, billions are involved, and they throw it all away by playing stone criminals. Nice!

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  • Bwaha
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    There you go. Cut the cash and you'll see them change real fast.

    Myself I can't justify the amount of money these clowns make, nor the amount of money the fans pay...

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