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  • #61
    Innocent until proven guilty.

    He may have doped, he may have not.

    There are always people out their that can do the almost unbelievable - ultra specialists - due to one reason or another.

    Can we expect Michael Phelps to be next on the list? He's a freak of nature compared to an average human. Another uber-specialist. Nature throws up these type of 'freaks' all the time, as defense when sudden evolutionary change is required.

    Oddly enough, we all have some peculiarities. I naturally happen to be partially immune to nerve gas - bizarre but true. Most people probably have their own fairly unique physical traits.

    My gut feeling says Lance was probably guilty.
    However, if I were on a jury, I would find him innocent until better evidence came along, and be more than happy to give that verdict.

    Never liked witch hunts.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by ForIAmSparticus View Post
      Still not buying it. How come some of his teammates got caught and he did not?
      To my knowledge no-one got caught while riding for Bruyneel's team(s).

      Originally posted by RichardS View Post
      It's just a witch hunt by people jealous of his success. I'm glad he told the agency and the TDF to go themself.
      Nothing particular about Lance, he did what everyone before him did, no-one has *ever* won the Tour "clean" - no coincidence he and Eddy Merckx are good friends.

      Wiggins may just have been the first one - wouldn't bet on his teammates though.
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      • #63


        http://www.cyclismas.com/2012/11/lazy-lance-lounges/

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        • #64
          I've always wonder why men need 2 balls anyway...
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          • #65
            Wow...he fessed up.

            I don't like how he went about it, c'mon now...OPRAH?
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            • #66
              At least one of his opponents, the London-based Sunday Times, has already filed a lawsuit to recover about $500,000 it paid him to settle a libel case, and Dallas-based SCA Promotions, which tried to deny Armstrong a promised bonus for a Tour de France win, has threatened to bring another lawsuit seeking to recover more than $7.5 million awarded by an arbitration panel.

              In Australia, the government of South Australia said it will seek the repayment of several million dollars in appearance fees paid to Armstrong for competing in the Tour Down Under in 2009, 2010 and 2011.

              <SNIP>

              Former teammate Floyd Landis, who was stripped of the 2006 Tour de France title for doping, has filed a federal whistle-blower lawsuit that accused Armstrong of defrauding the U.S. Postal Service. An attorney familiar with Armstrong's legal problems told the AP that the Justice Department is highly likely to join the lawsuit. The False Claims Act lawsuit could result in Armstrong paying a substantial amount of money to the U.S. government. The deadline for the department to join the case is Thursday, though the department could seek an extension if necessary.

              According to the attorney, who works outside the government, the lawsuit alleges that Armstrong defrauded the US government based on his years of denying use of performance-enhancing drugs. The attorney spoke on condition of anonymity because the source was not authorized to speak on the record about the matter.

              The lawsuit most likely to be influenced by a confession might be the Sunday Times case. Potential perjury charges stemming from Armstrong's sworn testimony in the 2005 arbitration fight would not apply because of the statute of limitations. Armstrong was not deposed during the federal investigation that was closed last year.
              http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226554789083

              Rooster to feather duster indeed!

              What a fall from grace this is.
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              • #67
                Truth was sold to the highest bidder.....
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                • #68
                  He could not do it on his own! He must fill like sh/t when he knows other men and women do it with their own skill. I think all of his medals been taken of him.

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                  • #69
                    Liar, cheat (well sort of they all cheated-not right but still), attacked others and now wants to save his a**??? No f*%& way! At the least he should get sued, pretty sure Lance will rat on the others to save himself from perjury.

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                    • #70
                      IMO Lance Armstrong was way too successful. Even though I believe that most, if not all, velo racers use the 'juice', someone had to be made a scapegoat. Armstrong's winning of the yellow jersey all those times just plain made some people see red.
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                      • #71
                        How disgusting to see the point of how far someone will go to win. I mean, the drugs themselves are bad but to take unnecessary blood transfusions is just plain gross!!!

                        I wouldn't be surprise to learn that half of the athletes in the olympics do the same thing. I hope the cancer society isn't affected by his stupid actions. Live Strong has raised over $60,000,000 for cancer research.
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                        • #72
                          His greatest crime, to my mind, is not what he did astride his bike, but the lurid threats and abuse he aimed at those who suggested he was cheating: while knowing that their charges were only the plain truth.
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                          • #73
                            The man was obviously talented. Did he really need to take those drugs?
                            My wifes side are all cyclists. They say almost everyone in the sport uses drugs, regardless of nationality.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
                              The man was obviously talented. Did he really need to take those drugs?
                              My wifes side are all cyclists. They say almost everyone in the sport uses drugs, regardless of nationality.
                              The first recorded instance is in the Tour of 1898 I believe, nitro-glycerine and strychnine iirc -
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by BELGRAVE View Post
                                His greatest crime, to my mind, is not what he did astride his bike, but the lurid threats and abuse he aimed at those who suggested he was cheating: while knowing that their charges were only the plain truth.
                                And possibly this one too:

                                Macomb County Sheriff’s investigators hope to soon release video of a man sought in a Macomb Township bank robbery who escaped on a green mountain bike, police said Saturday.

                                The incident happened about 5:30 p.m. Friday at a Flagstar Bank branch on Hall Road near the Aspen restaurant, west of Heydenreich Road. Police said the man approached a teller with a note that indicated he had a gun and wanted money.

                                He left the bank with an undisclosed amount of cash and fled on the bicycle, deputies said.
                                This is pretty funny

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