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    Few images explain the problem better than this one. Mexico is on the right side, USA one the left. This is the Tijuana-San Diego border crossing.



    My first thought is...
    Looking at these two pictures reminds of what a dry wedding reception looks like versus a wet wedding reception...

    I think this set of pictures is somewhat misleading.
    Correct me if I am wrong.
    Since earliest times, most humans have needed to live near fresh water.
    Humans tend to group up, so as they evolved they built little villages, trailer parks, towns, cities, nudist colonies etc.
    When you factor in the need for resources, this leaves depopulated places on the planet.
    Last edited by Slug; 15 May 10, 13:49. Reason: Hello. I didn't edit. I hit the wrong button. Sorry.

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    --Frederick II, King of Prussia

  • #2
    Mexico population density: 55/sq.km
    USA population density: 32/sq.km
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    • #3
      ...I'll bet that the left side has zoning codes....
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      • #4
        They all moved from the left to the right

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        • #5
          Drive south of Tijuana (or any other border city) and see how long it takes you to get to another major population center...

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          • #6
            Doc - you have the best graphics!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Karri View Post
              Mexico population density: 55/sq.km
              USA population density: 32/sq.km
              Meaning........

              Both countrys are relatively empty.

              Monaco 16,000 2 31,987
              Gibraltar (UK) 5,000 6 27,714
              Vatican City 2,000 0.44 900
              Malta 1,260 316 397,499
              Guernsey (UK) 830 78 64,587
              Jersey (UK) 774 116 89,775
              San Marino 455 61 27,730
              Netherlands 393 41,526 16,499,085
              Belgium 337 30,510 10,274,595
              United Kingdom 244 244,820 60,587,000
              Germany 233 357,021 82,217,800
              Kosovo 185 10,887 1,453,000
              Liechtenstein 205 160 32,842
              Italy 192 301,230 59,715,625
              Switzerland 177 41,290 7,301,994
              Luxembourg 173 2,586 448,569
              Andorra 146 468 68,403
              Moldova 131 33,843 4,434,547
              Czech Republic 130 78,866 10,256,760
              Isle of Man (UK) 129 572 73,873
              Denmark 125 43,094 5,368,854
              Poland 124 312,685 38,625,478
              Albania 123 28,748 3,544,841
              Slovakia 111 48,845 5,422,366
              France 111 547,030 63,601,002
              Portugal 109 92,391 10,084,245
              Hungary 108 93,030 10,075,034
              Serbia 100 77,474 7,780,000
              Austria 97 83,858 8,169,929
              Slovenia 95 20,273 2,048,847
              Romania 94 238,391 22,303,552
              Turkey 93 783,562 71,517,100
              Azerbaijan 90 86,600 7,798,497
              Spain 88 504,782 45,061,270
              Cyprus 83 9,250 767,314
              Macedonia 81 25,713 2,054,800
              Greece 81 131,940 10,645,343
              Ukraine 76 603,700 46,396,470
              Croatia 78 56,542 4,490,751
              Bosnia and Herzegovina 78 51,129 3,964,388
              Georgia 71 69,700 4,960,951
              Bulgaria 69 110,910 7,621,337
              Ireland 60 70,280 4,234,925
              Lithuania 55 65,200 3,601,138
              Belarus 50 207,600 10,335,382
              Latvia 37 64,589 2,366,515
              Montenegro 48 13,812 626,000
              Faroe Islands (Denmark) 33 1,399 46,011
              Estonia 31 45,226 1,415,681
              Sweden 20 449,964 9,076,744
              Finland 16 338,445 5,302,545
              Norway 14 324,220 4,743,193
              Russia 8.4 17,075,200 142,008,838
              Iceland 2.8 103,000 312,384
              Svalbard (Norway) 0.05 62,049 2,868

              First figure is density

              Second is sq miles of country

              Third is total population.

              So how many people could live in the US before it has a population desity of the UK???? two billion three hundred ninety-eight million five hundred twenty thousand.

              Seems were missing about 2 billion to reach the UK's level. As I said, the US is relatively uninhabited.

              To bad it isn't going to stay that way.
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
                More lefty emotional reactionary BS...

                The globe is NOT facing overpopulation...

                There are currently about 6 billion people on the globe. If everyone had a 2x2 foot plot to stand on, you could fit the entire population of the world in Jacksonville, Florida. There are 758 square miles in Jacksonville. That's nearly 22 billion square feet.

                People tend to coalesce where the opportunity for prosperity is most likely to be found. This is not overpopulation...it is human nature.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tater View Post
                  More lefty emotional reactionary BS...

                  The globe is NOT facing overpopulation...

                  There are currently about 6 billion people on the globe. If everyone had a 2x2 foot plot to stand on, you could fit the entire population of the world in Jacksonville, Florida. There are 758 square miles in Jacksonville. That's nearly 22 billion square feet.

                  People tend to coalesce where the opportunity for prosperity is most likely to be found. This is not overpopulation...it is human nature.
                  Overpopulation has nothing to do with space though, it has to do with resources. Besides, you can fit a person in 2x2 square area, but that doesn't mean it's actually enough to live in.

                  Point being, either we stop consuming so much(not gonna happen) or we enslave/kill most of the 3rd world countries people and we'll be good when it comes to overpopulation...

                  EDIT:
                  Space travel is the correct answer.
                  EDIT2:
                  I have a feeling we have already had this discussion.
                  Last edited by Karri; 14 May 10, 10:49.
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                  • #10
                    Now this Tater is very relevant

                    There are currently about 6 billion people on the globe. If everyone had a 2x2 foot plot to stand on, you could fit the entire population of the world in Jacksonville, Florida. There are 758 square miles in Jacksonville. That's nearly 22 billion square feet.
                    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                      Drive south of Tijuana (or any other border city) and see how long it takes you to get to another major population center...

                      Is that map using data from 1970?
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                      • #12
                        It struck me that the American side with its fortifications looks more like East Germany (saw it in 1988 just before the collapse) than Estados Unidos.

                        You can see how the Americans are grooming a dust path along the wall so that anybody who finds an opening leaves footprints.

                        Now suppose a Mexican aviator-illegal flies over the fence in an ultralight: will American flak open up trying to shoot him down?

                        Last edited by MonsterZero; 14 May 10, 13:14.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by At ease View Post
                          Is that map using data from 1970?
                          Yep. It was the only decent looking map I could find in an easily post-able image. It's from the Perry Castenada collection at the University of Texas.

                          In the intervening 40 years, the dense areas have gotten denser and the sparse areas have remained sparse.

                          People are packed into the big cities, particularly around Mexico City. I've driven from Monterrey to Torreon... It's about as sparsely populated between those two cities as it is between Durango CO and St. George UT.
                          Last edited by The Doctor; 14 May 10, 13:39.
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                          • #14
                            Fight population explosion - support your local war.

                            (Or if you are doves support a good plague)
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tater View Post
                              More lefty emotional reactionary BS...

                              The globe is NOT facing overpopulation...

                              There are currently about 6 billion people on the globe. If everyone had a 2x2 foot plot to stand on, you could fit the entire population of the world in Jacksonville, Florida. There are 758 square miles in Jacksonville. That's nearly 22 billion square feet.

                              People tend to coalesce where the opportunity for prosperity is most likely to be found. This is not overpopulation...it is human nature.
                              Of your 6 billion one billion are starving. But you being the good Christian that you are, you don't give a rat a-- about others as long as your belly is full. And you talk about intellectual dishonesty. How about hypocrisy?

                              Can you find a couple of passages in the Bible about helping your neighbor?

                              Luke 14:12-14 ESV / 3 helpful votes
                              He said also to the man who had invited him, “When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return and you be repaid. But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”

                              Good liberal/Marist ideas here.

                              Acts 2:44-45 And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need.
                              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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