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  • Political Observation.

    I normally don't talk about current politics because no matter which side you are on; you won't change the other person's beliefs. But when talking about X voted against that or voted for that. Ask yourself what else was in the bill besides your pet project!?


    Cheers!


    Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

    "I'm not expendable; I'm not stupid and I'm not going." - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

    What didn't kill us; didn't make us smarter.

  • #2
    OH MY GOD!!!! An attempt to use rational thought, reasoning, and common sense!!!! All In One Thread!!!!!

    AAAAAGGGGHGHGHGHGH!!!!!!

    Too much input. Can not compute.

    System shutting down..........

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    • #3
      Back on track...

      “Highway bill draws hitchhikers – Richard Simon, LA Times – Flip through the massive highway bill moving through Congress and you'll encounter some unexpected detours: tax breaks for the limousine industry, gunsmiths, fishing rod manufacturers, even casinos. A tax break for stores that sell alcoholic beverages appears in the same bill that includes measures to crack down on drunken driving…Robert Bixby of the Concord Coalition, a budget watchdog group, said lobbyists were ‘scrambling to get on board one of the few trains that may actually leave the station. Between election-year gridlock and budget deficits, there will be few opportunities this year to hide special–interest goodies into ‘must-pass’ legislation.’ Added Keith Ashdown, vice-president of the Washington DC-based Taxpayers for Common Sense…’the tax breaks…have nothing to do with reducing congestion or saving lives on roads.’”

      And yet again, an opportunity to slam one another over who votes for the bill and who votes against the riders.

      Just though I'd get the absurdities of politics back on track and away from rational, logicial thinking.
      If voting could really change things, it would be illegal.

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      • #4
        Re: Back on track...

        Originally posted by chrisvalla
        Just though I'd get the absurdities of politics back on track and away from rational, logicial thinking.
        Too late! Just keep repeating. Science and rational thought are good. :thumb:

        Cheers!





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        Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

        "I'm not expendable; I'm not stupid and I'm not going." - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

        What didn't kill us; didn't make us smarter.

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        • #5
          Re: Political Observation.

          Originally posted by RStory
          I normally don't talk about current politics because no matter which side you are on; you won't change the other person's beliefs. But when talking about X voted against that or voted for that. Ask yourself what else was in the bill besides your pet project!?


          Cheers!


          But that's the way politics is supposed to operate, isn't it? Attached to that highway funding bill is an annex to name a rest area after my pet turtle, a study on the reproduction habits of fruit flies for the company that I own stock in, a payment to my grandma for plastic surgery and fat reduction, and the payment to my son's prep school for the next 5 years. Isn't democracy great!?
          Mens Est Clavis Victoriae
          (The Mind Is The Key To Victory)

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          • #6
            Re: Re: Political Observation.

            Originally posted by hogdriver
            But that's the way politics is supposed to operate, isn't it? Attached to that highway funding bill is an annex to name a rest area after my pet turtle, a study on the reproduction habits of fruit flies for the company that I own stock in, a payment to my grandma for plastic surgery and fat reduction, and the payment to my son's prep school for the next 5 years. Isn't democracy great!?
            Democracy is wonderful. My point was that we really can't rush to judge based on voting record unless we know exactly what was in each appropriations bill.


            Cheers!


            Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

            "I'm not expendable; I'm not stupid and I'm not going." - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

            What didn't kill us; didn't make us smarter.

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            • #7
              Re: Re: Re: Political Observation.

              Originally posted by RStory
              Democracy is wonderful. My point was that we really can't rush to judge based on voting record unless we know exactly what was in each appropriations bill.


              Cheers!


              RStory:

              The problem with that is usually the pork is buried in amongst the boring parts of the bill, where few will bother to have a look. The truth is that there may be no bills that have no pork-barrel spending in them
              Mens Est Clavis Victoriae
              (The Mind Is The Key To Victory)

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              • #8
                Re: Re: Re: Re: Political Observation.

                Originally posted by hogdriver
                RStory:

                The problem with that is usually the pork is buried in amongst the boring parts of the bill, where few will bother to have a look. The truth is that there may be no bills that have no pork-barrel spending in them
                Oh, I agree. But we just can't hide our head in the sand and say that X voted against this and there-fore is Y without establishing the fact there was more beef than pork in the bill.

                Cheers!


                Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

                "I'm not expendable; I'm not stupid and I'm not going." - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

                What didn't kill us; didn't make us smarter.

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                • #9
                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Political Observation.

                  Originally posted by RStory
                  Oh, I agree. But we just can't hide our head in the sand and say that X voted against this and there-fore is Y without establishing the fact there was more beef than pork in the bill.
                  :quest:

                  Are we talking about having a Barbecue?

                  Dr. S.
                  Imagine a ball of iron, the size of the sun. And once a year a tiny sparrow brushes its surface with the tip of its wing. And when that ball of iron, the size of the sun, is worn away to nothing, your punishment will barely have begun.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Political Observation.

                    Originally posted by Doctor Sinister
                    :quest:

                    Are we talking about having a Barbecue?

                    Of course; didn't you get the invitation yet?


                    Cheers!



                    Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

                    "I'm not expendable; I'm not stupid and I'm not going." - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

                    What didn't kill us; didn't make us smarter.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Political Observation.

                      Originally posted by RStory
                      Of course; didn't you get the invitation yet?
                      No, I guess it got lost in the post.

                      I hate it when that happens. Here's my Registered Office for future events:

                      Sinister Incorporated,
                      PO Box 1,
                      Crater Lake,
                      Mount Despair,
                      Victory Mountains,
                      Island of Fear,
                      Off the coast of Africa,
                      Near Nowhere else in particular,
                      Atlantic Ocean

                      :thumb:

                      Dr. S.
                      Imagine a ball of iron, the size of the sun. And once a year a tiny sparrow brushes its surface with the tip of its wing. And when that ball of iron, the size of the sun, is worn away to nothing, your punishment will barely have begun.

                      www.sinisterincorporated.co.uk

                      www.tabletown.co.uk

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                      • #12
                        So which part goes in the 'address 2' field?
                        If voting could really change things, it would be illegal.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Re: Re: Re: Political Observation.

                          Originally posted by hogdriver
                          RStory:

                          The problem with that is usually the pork is buried in amongst the boring parts of the bill, where few will bother to have a look. The truth is that there may be no bills that have no pork-barrel spending in them
                          You're right, and 2 cures have been suggested in Congress.

                          1. Got to stick to the subject -- no "riders", and
                          2. Line item veto.

                          The politicians don't like any of them because it exposes their pork.

                          JS
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                          • #14
                            Line Item Veto

                            I don't think you will be seeing a line item veto anytime soon. Both the Republicans and Democrats LOVE pork to such an extent that they would never support the line item veto.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Line Item Veto

                              Originally posted by Gepard
                              I don't think you will be seeing a line item veto anytime soon. Both the Republicans and Democrats LOVE pork to such an extent that they would never support the line item veto.
                              ....hence my last sentence.
                              JS
                              Barcsi János ispán vezérőrnagy
                              Time Magazine's Person of the Year for 2003 & 2006


                              "Never pet a burning dog."

                              RECOMMENDED WEBSITES:
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                              http://www.scv.org/
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