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    Below are some questions I sent out to some friends a week ago. I am doing a project for my health sciences teacher. The goal is to provide a personal glimpse into healthcare in other countries. Basically, I am looking to see if people are satisfied with their service and if they feel they are seen in a reasonable time. Additionally, do they need private insurance to be seen in a reasonable time. Of course, if I have left something out or you have something extra to share, please include that information as well.

    The most important thing is that I get a response, so do it in whatever way is best for you. I would prefer an e-mail to [email protected] so I can save it in the folder with the other responses and print them all at once. However, if you want to reply to the thread or to send me a PM on here that is good too.

    Here is the original e-mail:
    Hey everybody,

    My professor has asked some questions of me and some I could answer and some I couldn't. If you could take a few minutes and answer questions to be shared with my class I am sure everyone involved would appreciate it. Mark, I have included you for your experiences living in Amsterdam. Thanks for any responses and if you have time to let me know how you are doing and what you are up to it would be appreciated as well. Hopefully this has found all of you well and lovin' life!

    1. What country/countries has your experience with health care been in?
    2. Does it help to have private health insurance? Is it affordable?
    3. Is it difficult to schedule a required procedure?
    4. Is it difficult to schedule a cosmetic procedure? Does the government pay for these?
    5. Are dental and vision included with the government health insurance in those countries that have socialized medicine?
    6. Are their emergency clinics in your country? Does the government insurance cover these expenditures?
    7. Please feel free to include any personal experiences related to health care in your country with as many or as few details as you are comfortable with.

    Again, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. Nobody has any idea where US healthcare is heading and I am sure my classmates will be appreciative of this glimpse into what others countries are doing!

    Have a good day!
    Heather
    Again, thanks for your response!
    Heather

  • #2
    I got a response from HP concerning Germany, US, and US military. I know there are several more countries out there, so I would appreciate it you guys could get something in.

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    • #3
      1. What country/countries has your experience with health care been in?

      **USA-Korea-Germany...(private) Military (all over the gawdamn place)

      2. Does it help to have private health insurance? Is it affordable?

      **Yes and no for far too many.

      3. Is it difficult to schedule a required procedure?


      ** Not in the sytem i use.

      4. Is it difficult to schedule a cosmetic procedure? Does the government pay for these?

      ** Entirely dependent on the root cause and those approved.. in the VA yes and no.


      5. Are dental and vision included with the government health insurance in those countries that have socialized medicine?

      ** My experience no longer serves that un.


      6. Are their emergency clinics in your country? Does the government insurance cover these expenditures?

      Yes....if indigent or in the case of Vet's in America, dependent upon nature of illness and or life threatening.


      7. Please feel free to include any personal experiences related to health care in your country with as many or as few details as you are comfortable with.

      ** In general i am extremely pleased with the VA and also because of private insurance; my local Doc.


      best
      CV

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      • #4
        I really am not sure how it works. Our health coverage is fairly invisible to the consumer. I walk into a clinic or my family doctor, present my health care card, and get help. I never see any of the paper work or billing information. My family doctor, a nearby clinic, the hospital, the local pharmacy, all have my info on file. I just tell them my name and what I need and it happens.

        Equal access to healthcare was one of the reasons for confederation.

        With diagnostics and non-emergency procedures there can be a long wait. Basically, if it's an emergency or may become one you get in quickly for diagnostics. If it's non emergency you wait. Simple stuff like blood work and X-rays you just drop by a clinic and it gets done right away. CT scans you have to book an apointment at a hospital and wait (my non-emergency back took a month to get in). MRI can be a very long time (I go in for my brain next week and have been waiting ten months).

        Same thing with surgery. My sinus surgery took ten months to get done. When I was losing the use of my hand due to a crushed ulnar nerve I got in within a week. I've taken quite a few people to emergency, as a first aid attendant at work, and the wait can be very quick to a few hours for non-emergency.

        For diagnostics if you don't want to wait you can go to private diagnostic clinics. Also, some non-emergency procedures are now being done at private clinics. However, there have been some battles between the province and the federal government over this issue.

        There is also some difference in medications. For example my allergy medications are covered under the provincial plan. However, there are some better drugs that the provincial plan will only pay partially for. My extended coverage, through my employer, covers the difference. I do see the bills for that but only if I dig around in the drug store bag for it. The cost is billed directly to the province medical services plan or extended benefits plan. My reciept just shows me how much the drugs cost. I don't actually pay for them. Vision care and dental is also covered under extended benefits.
        Last edited by Duncan; 17 Nov 07, 18:07.

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        • #5
          1. What country/countries has your experience with health care been in?
          Canada and the UK

          2. Does it help to have private health insurance? Is it affordable?
          We have basic provincial coverage, extended coverage through an employer, and I think private coverage now. The first two are affordable. It costs my employer about $160 for my wife and I to get basic and extended.

          3. Is it difficult to schedule a required procedure?
          Scheduling is easy. Common diagnostics are handled by walk in offices. More complicated ones are handled by hospitals. Emergencies get done quick. Non-emergency can be a long wait.

          4. Is it difficult to schedule a cosmetic procedure? Does the government pay for these?
          The government does not cover cosmetic procedures.

          5. Are dental and vision included with the government health insurance in those countries that have socialized medicine?
          These are covered under extended benefits, if you have them through your employer. Otherwise you pay. You can see a doctor about your vision or dental problems under provincial coverage. But to see a dentist or buy glasses you need extended coverage.

          6. Are their emergency clinics in your country? Does the government insurance cover these expenditures?
          We have family doctors, walk in clinics, and hospital emergency room. These are all covered by provincial coverage.

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          • #6
            I have had experience with going to the hospital in Russia. Talk about scary! Better to just wait to die.

            In Italy it is similar to what Duncan said. The problem is when something that isn't an emergency becomes one too fast for the system to cope. A family member of a friend of mine died while waiting for a heart operation that was scheduled for several weeks away.

            Waiting lists are typical features of socialized medicine.

            In Vietnam it is similar to Russia. If you depend on the public heatlh service you are in dire trouble. The only way to get quality care is to go to private doctors, and this is expensive. Of course you get what you pay for.

            A note on the German system. I have not had direct experience with it, but I stayed with a German friend for about six weeks once. We both caught a cold at the same time. He went to the doctor and I did not. He got a perscription and excuse from work for several days. I continued to go to work and school even with the cold. We both recovered at about the same time. The nature of socialized medicine is that it encourages people to use the system even for minor things that they otherwise would not go to the doctor for. Thus the waiting lists and expensive cost to the economy of such systems.
            Last edited by Miss Saigon; 17 Nov 07, 14:36.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Miss.Saigon View Post
              I have had experience with going to the hospital in Russia. Talk about scary! Better to just wait to die.

              In Italy it is similar to what Duncan said. The problem is when something that isn't an emergency becomes one too fast for the system to cope. A family member of a friend of mine died while waiting for a heart operation that was scheduled for several weeks away.

              Waiting lists are typical features of socialized medicine.

              In Vietnam it is similar to Russia. If you depend on the public heatlh service you are in dire trouble. The only way to get quality care is to go to private doctors, and this is expensive. Of course you get what you pay for.
              Waiting lists are typical features of socialized medicine.
              Your painting with a very wide brush. Isn't so, perhaps those systems that you are familiar with, but your surly not familiar with all systems
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
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                • #9
                  1:Sweden
                  2:Yes it does and it is affordable.
                  3:No
                  4:No , the government pays for it in some cases
                  5:No
                  6:Yes there are and the government insurance covers it.

                  That about it , sorry if I misunderstood something.
                  “For there is nothing more serious than a lunatic when he comes to the central point of his lunacy.”

                  Max Sterner

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Biscuit View Post
                    1. What country/countries has your experience with health care been in?
                    Finland

                    2. Does it help to have private health insurance? Is it affordable?
                    Don't have one, never even thought of getting one.

                    3. Is it difficult to schedule a required procedure?
                    It's not instant by any means. And there are some problems with surgeries, but not big enough to say the system doesn't work. It has never caused me any problems.

                    4. Is it difficult to schedule a cosmetic procedure? Does the government pay for these?
                    No and no(AFAIK).

                    5. Are dental and vision included with the government health insurance in those countries that have socialized medicine?
                    No and no.

                    6. Are their emergency clinics in your country? Does the government insurance cover these expenditures?
                    Yes and yes. These are however quite crowded sometimes....or actually always. It takes hours to get to see the doctor there. Of course life threathening etc. cases doesn't take that long.

                    7. Please feel free to include any personal experiences related to health care in your country with as many or as few details as you are comfortable with.
                    As few? It works. Haven't had problems with it.
                    Wisdom is personal

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                    • #11
                      See the email I sent. Good luck.
                      The truth? You can't handle the truth! No truth handler you! I deride your truth handling abilities!
                      Sideshow Bob.

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                      • #12
                        Email sent
                        Wolster

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                        • #13
                          Sent an email.

                          You know where I stand on the 'evils' of 'socialised' medicine.


                          I am an Iraq war opposing, big government, liberal, pinko, leftist, tax increasing, socialised medicine loving commie. Who owns his own business, sends his son to private school and supports the war in Afganistan.

                          I have a suspicion that I may be bipolar.
                          War. Young men killing each other for the benefit of old men!

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                          • #14
                            I don't know much about our health sistem. I know it stinks and in some cases people are on 3 years waiting lists. There was many cases where people got called to get a needed cirurgy after they passed away.
                            They're now closing a lot of medical facilities, and there's a lot of babies coming to this world on an ambulance on the road, as people live too far away from nativity hospitals.
                            There's a great need for private services and they're very expensive. As far as I know there's to tradition on health insurrances in Portugal.
                            As for government help, there's not a lot that can be mentioned, a few pills and that's it. Just that you can have an idea how messed up our goverment is I'm telling you their newest "epiphany".
                            They aproved the abortion law and 6 mouths later they created a found to benefict women that would have more than one baby. On the same time their closing nativity hospitals everywhere. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks this is insane politics.
                            Hope this helps as for questions 4 and 5, it's a joke. No way our goverment is helping any on those issues.
                            All warfare is based on deception.
                            Sun Tzu - Art of war - Chapter One - Laying Plans


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                            • #15
                              I would be interested to hear what Boonie has to say on this as I understand that in France the insurances is public but the medical system itself is still private.

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