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  • Being called a Nazi!

    Well let me first say i don't get into politics much, dislike it. My Father
    however is into it big time, as head of a group called Immigration Reform.
    There goal is to stop illegal aliens from coming into the United States.

    They have no problems with those who come into the country legally. This
    however has caused problems with the Farm & Nursery industry who rely on
    these illegal workers for a human work force.

    A magazine called the Digger, which comes out here in the NW, has a guy who is the Oregon Assoc. Nurseryman Executive Dir., and wrote an editoral.

    Saying my Father and a radio talk show hosts were like Nazi's spewing hate
    filled rhetoric aimed at immigrants.

    Is a person a Nazi who wants the country safer from possible terroist attack?

    Is a person who obeys our laws and insist others who come here illegally obey those same laws a Nazi?

    Or that they want better laws for obtaining a Driver's license?

    I don't think much of this guy, nor do i think he has a good case.
    Life is what happens to you when your busy making other plans! Lennon - www.lufttiger.com

  • #2
    The guy is clearly a dope. Nowadays people call everyone they don't like Nazis for espousing conservative values. I've been called a Nazi and I've also been called a neocon. I'm not that either. My experience is that people who call you those things (1) Don't understand you and (2) Don't understand the term.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by lufttiger View Post
      Well let me first say i don't get into politics much, dislike it. My Father
      however is into it big time, as head of a group called Immigration Reform.
      There goal is to stop illegal aliens from coming into the United States.

      They have no problems with those who come into the country legally. This
      however has caused problems with the Farm & Nursery industry who rely on
      these illegal workers for a human work force.

      A magazine called the Digger, which comes out here in the NW, has a guy who is the Oregon Assoc. Nurseryman Executive Dir., and wrote an editoral.

      Saying my Father and a radio talk show hosts were like Nazi's spewing hate
      filled rhetoric aimed at immigrants.

      Is a person a Nazi who wants the country safer from possible terroist attack?

      Is a person who obeys our laws and insist others who come here illegally obey those same laws a Nazi?

      Or that they want better laws for obtaining a Driver's license?

      I don't think much of this guy, nor do i think he has a good case.
      You can obviously tell he is say this bullsh*t because he doesn't want to go through the process of checking the legality of his employees and the various costs that are imposed on business with it.

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      • #4
        At one time being called a nazi was a very serious accusation. It meant that a person with a supremacist attitude advocated or took part in the whole sale murder of innocent people and championed both world domination and a strict police state.

        For the most part, this is no longer the case.

        Nazi is now one of those words that through frivolous overuse has been diminished through uses like soup nazi, nazi rock, safety nazi and so on.

        The word is now thrown around so often, and so casually, that its application can mean anything from a bad joke to a pointed implication. Its true meaning then left up to the interpretation of those who hear it or read it.

        And therein lies the problem.

        Your father sounds like he is anything but a nazi, lufttiger. Unfortunately the word has now been used to describe him and depending on how those who read it or hear consider the word will depend on how much damage has been done.

        On the other side of the coin, someday when a real nazi, a real threat, rears its head again and the warning goes out, how many will take it serious and how many will view it as a bad joke or just another word.
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        • #5
          Couldn't agree with you more Cy, we knew what this guy ment because in
          the same paragraph in included the names of Hitler and Goebbels.

          Makes you wonder if 50 years from now the word Nazi will be just another
          word? Like check out my Air Nazi Tennis shoes their better than Nike
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          • #6
            Originally posted by cyberia View Post
            At one time being called a nazi was a very serious accusation. It meant that a person with a supremacist attitude advocated or took part in the whole sale murder of innocent people and championed both world domination and a strict police state.
            I thought that was communists?!?! Hard to tell the difference sometimes.
            Originally posted by cyberia View Post
            On the other side of the coin, someday when a real nazi, a real threat, rears its head again and the warning goes out, how many will take it serious and how many will view it as a bad joke or just another word.
            Like a Ba'athist? There are very few differences.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by lufttiger View Post
              Well let me first say i don't get into politics much, dislike it. My Father
              however is into it big time, as head of a group called Immigration Reform.
              There goal is to stop illegal aliens from coming into the United States.

              They have no problems with those who come into the country legally. This
              however has caused problems with the Farm & Nursery industry who rely on
              these illegal workers for a human work force.

              A magazine called the Digger, which comes out here in the NW, has a guy who is the Oregon Assoc. Nurseryman Executive Dir., and wrote an editoral.

              Saying my Father and a radio talk show hosts were like Nazi's spewing hate
              filled rhetoric aimed at immigrants.

              Is a person a Nazi who wants the country safer from possible terroist attack?

              Is a person who obeys our laws and insist others who come here illegally obey those same laws a Nazi?

              Or that they want better laws for obtaining a Driver's license?

              I don't think much of this guy, nor do i think he has a good case.
              It really depends what else your father has said.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Karri View Post
                It really depends what else your father has said.
                Not really. The word is commonly thrown around here in lieu of legimate political debate.
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                • #9
                  Is a person a Nazi who wants the country safer from possible terroist attack
                  What does this have to do with illegals? Have we had a rash of terroist attacks by this group?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Half Pint View Post
                    What does this have to do with illegals? Have we had a rash of terroist attacks by this group?

                    HP
                    Yes, actually we have. A number of the terrorists involved in recent events, including the (almost) attacks at Ft Dix were illegal aliens. IIRC, some of the 9-11 guys were in a similar situation.

                    While we tend to think of illegal aliens as coming over from Mexico, it's actually a broad category that involves people from numerous countries.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Janos View Post
                      Not really. The word is commonly thrown around here in lieu of legimate political debate.
                      Yes really. It's not a matter of what he is called, but if he actually is that.
                      Wisdom is personal

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Half Pint View Post
                        What does this have to do with illegals? Have we had a rash of terroist attacks by this group?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Karri View Post
                          Yes really. It's not a matter of what he is called, but if he actually is that.
                          Judging from his reaction to the insult, I think it's clear he's not a Nazi. Or am I missing something entirely in your post?
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                          • #14
                            Nazi is thrown around today like "Communist" was during the McCarthy era. I wouldn't even sweat it.
                            Welcome to the adult world. Kinda sucks when you have to be the responsible ones and take all the pot shots from the chagrined lefties and mongoloid celebrities, who don't know their collective posteriors from sound economic policy. - 98ZJUSMC

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Karri View Post
                              It really depends what else your father has said.
                              Basically its what he stands for, he believes that to give illegal aliens a driver
                              license without proof of who they really are, is a bad idea. He also believes
                              that they should be processed as temp work force, no family coming with
                              them, just the worker, and at the end of the season they go back to their
                              country.
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