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    If you could redisign the UN in any way, how would you do it?

    To get people talking, here is a hypothetical which I'm sure will set some people's teech knashing

    What would happen if we scrapped the UN, and instead replaced it with a "democracies club", with admission on the basis of free market economy, human rights standards and democracy.

    Rather than appointed diplomats, the people running the show are directly elected representatives. Give it genuine legislative, executive and judicery branches which have direct power over member countries in certain, limited areas. Give it a real army which is under the direct command of the executive who's job it is to enforce mandates.

  • #2
    Great ideas, here's a few of mine:


    Budget dramatically increased.

    Remove the veto power completely.

    No permanent members of the Security Council.

    Stronger executive branch (President of the U.N. maybe?).

    A judicial branch that actually has its rulings enforced.

    U.N. representatives elected, rather than appointed, by each country.

    Small standing army equipped, supported by, and paid out of U.N. budget to provide a quick response to crises around the world. Peacekeepers and heavier forces to be raised as needed for individual conflicts from member nations.

    Power to enforce resolutions through diplomatic and economic sanctions (yes, the U.N. has these now, but I mean actually enforcing them) as well as threat of force or use of force.

    Authoritarian regimes and nations that abuse human rights not kicked out entirely, but stripped of their voting power in the U.N. and ineligible for any type of aid until they make real efforts to reform (including China!).



    I could probably go on but I think that is more than enough. Nothing more than a pipedream and hogwash, if anything close to it was actually implemented every nation on the planet, especially the U.S., would cry out over violations of sovereignty and torpedo the whole business. Oh well, you said hypothetical.

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    • #3
      Here's my idea...turn it into a Home Depot.

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      • #4
        Un

        here is one idea:

        give them all the WMD of the world. So bureaucratic they'll end up loosing them in Lake Geneva or in the Hudson.

        want to see the end of "western civilisation", give voting rights at the UN based on population (after all every man is equal...) rather than country... and with Veto remoove see the Third world rule supreme!

        ha...
        "Freedom cannot exist without discipline, self-discipline, and rights cannot exist without duties. Those who do not observe their duties do not deserve their rights."--Oriana Fallaci

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        • #5
          I totally disagree with the idea of any type of UN military force. If the members agree on sending troops somewhere, then they can provide the troops to do it. The socialist mafia desperately wants to give the UN its own "power," separate and independant of the influence of the leading nations, but this is a pipe dream. Its the first step toward world government.

          If you think WWII was bad, wait until the showdown comes over the establishment of a world government. . .
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          • #6
            hihi

            hi hi, world governement... the end of the world as we know it!
            "Freedom cannot exist without discipline, self-discipline, and rights cannot exist without duties. Those who do not observe their duties do not deserve their rights."--Oriana Fallaci

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            • #7
              Originally posted by piero1971
              hi hi, world governement... the end of the world as we know it!
              A one world government will be the end of the world as everyone knows it.

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              • #8
                A judicial branch that actually has its rulings enforced.

                U.N. representatives elected, rather than appointed, by each country.

                Small standing army equipped, supported by, and paid out of U.N. budget to provide a quick response to crises around the world. Peacekeepers and heavier forces to be raised as needed for individual conflicts from member nations.

                Power to enforce resolutions through diplomatic and economic sanctions (yes, the U.N. has these now, but I mean actually enforcing them) as well as threat of force or use of force.

                Authoritarian regimes and nations that abuse human rights not kicked out entirely, but stripped of their voting power in the U.N. and ineligible for any type of aid until they make real efforts to reform (including China!).
                "Standing army"? Standing where? And if you need more soldiers where else are you going to get them except from large countries and large countries are just supposed to cough them up? And what if the problem is another large country like China? With all this "enforcing" going on, what is to prevent the UN from becoming another "authoritarian regime"? Do you know there are religions who to this very day dream of extending their authority over the entire planet? Do you know that this is the ultimate goal of Al Qaeda?

                The idea that there can ever be some history ignoring international gizmo guaranteed to function for human happiness and welfare is completely derelict. The UN best functions as a place where countries can get together and talk about international problems in a public place.

                World government could work, but not with government functioning the way it does now. The public needs to learn a lot more about government and how it works before we start meditating on the prospects of world government.
                Get the US out of NATO, now!

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                • #9
                  We need less government and beaurocrats in the world, not more.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Don Maddox
                    We need less government and beaurocrats in the world, not more.
                    Yeah less bureaucrats.. Send 'em to Iraq or Asfghanistan and die like men...
                    "A platoon of Chinese tanks viciously attacked a Soviet harvester,
                    which was peacefully working a field near the Soviet-Chinese border.
                    The harvester returned fire and upon destroying the enemy
                    returned to its home base."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pheno
                      What would happen if we scrapped the UN, and instead replaced it with a "democracies club", with admission on the basis of free market economy, human rights standards and democracy.
                      First blunder, who defines these? No state would be admitted.
                      Not lip service, nor obsequious homage to superiors, nor servile observance of forms and customs...the Australian army is proof that individualism is the best and not the worst foundation upon which to build up collective discipline - General Monash

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Don Maddox
                        I totally disagree with the idea of any type of UN military force. If the members agree on sending troops somewhere, then they can provide the troops to do it. The socialist mafia desperately wants to give the UN its own "power," separate and independant of the influence of the leading nations, but this is a pipe dream. Its the first step toward world government.

                        If you think WWII was bad, wait until the showdown comes over the establishment of a world government. . .
                        There's alot of pluses in having a UN military wing.
                        Not lip service, nor obsequious homage to superiors, nor servile observance of forms and customs...the Australian army is proof that individualism is the best and not the worst foundation upon which to build up collective discipline - General Monash

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SparceMatrix
                          "Standing army"? Standing where? And if you need more soldiers where else are you going to get them except from large countries and large countries are just supposed to cough them up? And what if the problem is another large country like China? With all this "enforcing" going on, what is to prevent the UN from becoming another "authoritarian regime"? Do you know there are religions who to this very day dream of extending their authority over the entire planet? Do you know that this is the ultimate goal of Al Qaeda?

                          The idea that there can ever be some history ignoring international gizmo guaranteed to function for human happiness and welfare is completely derelict. The UN best functions as a place where countries can get together and talk about international problems in a public place.

                          World government could work, but not with government functioning the way it does now. The public needs to learn a lot more about government and how it works before we start meditating on the prospects of world government.
                          You recruit them as individuals not as units. Who started this world gov ****? While im here where are the Jews in all this? Then theres Mormons they are the real threat. We can't have a UN miilitary force because the Mormons will take over the world
                          Not lip service, nor obsequious homage to superiors, nor servile observance of forms and customs...the Australian army is proof that individualism is the best and not the worst foundation upon which to build up collective discipline - General Monash

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pheno
                            If you could redisign the UN in any way, how would you do it?

                            To get people talking, here is a hypothetical which I'm sure will set some people's teech knashing

                            What would happen if we scrapped the UN, and instead replaced it with a "democracies club", with admission on the basis of free market economy, human rights standards and democracy.

                            Rather than appointed diplomats, the people running the show are directly elected representatives. Give it genuine legislative, executive and judicery branches which have direct power over member countries in certain, limited areas. Give it a real army which is under the direct command of the executive who's job it is to enforce mandates.

                            Sounds like you've just invented the EU.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Prester John
                              Sounds like you've just invented the EU.
                              Oh my . . .
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