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    Just a little poll as to who supports or is against 'the right to die' we could be talking about terminally ill patients with cancer etc, babies born with serious abnormalities or victims or terrible accidents (burns etc).
    31
    Yes I support euthanasia!
    22.58%
    7
    No I don't!
    3.23%
    1
    Only for people who can decide for themselves!
    67.74%
    21
    Other.
    6.45%
    2
    "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
    Ernest Hemingway.

    "The more I learn about people, The more I love my dog".
    Mark Twain.

  • #2
    I believe in the right to die when you, and only you, have made that choice for yourself. Whether that's via spoken word or a living will, etc... as long as someone else isn't making that choice for you.
    Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated... again...

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    • #3
      I agree with sickpup. Only you have the right to make that decision.
      "You can tell a lot about a fella's character by whether he picks out all of one color or just grabs a handful." -explaining why Reagan liked to have a jar of jelly beans on hand for important meetings

      CO for 1st S.INC Shock Security Troop

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      • #4
        Both the wife and I have living wills. When my wife had her heart surgery it really hit home that I might have to execute her living will. It is a hard thing to even think about and I hope I'm never faced with the actual decision.
        If you can't set a good example, be a glaring warning.

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        • #5
          Whether to continue one's life must be an individual decision. Euthanasia should be allowed for a fully informed person of sound mind after consulting with family, friends and anyone else whose opinion he respects. The government should never be involved beyond the enabling laws.

          On the other hand, doctors, the most logical providers, should not be forced to provide services if they have moral reservations.
          All questions are valid, all answers are tentative.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by achtung baby View Post
            Just a little poll as to who supports or is against 'the right to die' we could be talking about terminally ill patients with cancer etc, babies born with serious abnormalities or victims or terrible accidents (burns etc).
            Oh absolutely..... GOD gave you each one that right.....in HIS own good time. The where's and how's and when's are not necessarily within my jurisdiction.

            best
            CV

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis View Post
              Oh absolutely..... GOD gave you each one that right.....in HIS own good time. The where's and how's and when's are not necessarily within my jurisdiction.

              best
              CV
              YES they are, IF God gave you a free will. He left that decision to you.

              To use your argument that it is only God can decide then that rules out the death sentence as being God's will
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by achtung baby View Post
                Just a little poll as to who supports or is against 'the right to die' we could be talking about terminally ill patients with cancer etc, babies born with serious abnormalities or victims or terrible accidents (burns etc).
                I voted for those who could make there minds up but I do believe it could be used for some very ill people though
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                • #9
                  I watched my mother die for three years with emphysema. What really cooked my goose was when she was having a bad day in the second year. She looked at me and said 'I really wish I'd got cancer instead'.
                  I totally support voluntary euthanasia and did even before my mother got sick. She wanted to die but not straight away. It took her maybe a year to be ready for it and when she did get ready, she was a changed woman. She became what I wish she'd been able to be during her healthy years. Happy and at peace with herself. She died of pneumonia in a nursing home at the age of 62. My Dad followed her six months later. Funny how that happens.
                  The truth? You can't handle the truth! No truth handler you! I deride your truth handling abilities!
                  Sideshow Bob.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Half Pint View Post
                    YES they are, IF God gave you a free will. He left that decision to you.

                    To use your argument that it is only God can decide then that rules out the death sentence as being God's will

                    Not at all for GOD had mandated death...ie. physical death before and even after the coming of the Christ....but tis another subject ....because physical death is nothing...but the death of the spirit or soul is all....another time.



                    Ah but my dear PB... for a moement ....get beyond the failed neo-socialism you have exposed yourself to for many years and review each element, meta-phsyicaly, of my post......as the former old time, ''ole time gime some da religns boss'', tradtionalist you probably once were....think of nuns rapping ya knuckles as a kid if it helps....the fire and brimstone of a hurled Baptist sermon...people rolling around on the floor....ya get the picture.


                    and all will become 'klar brillantine'.



                    GOD has indeed mandated death....and GOD has indeed mandated it to be his own good time not ours....to presume other is to presume superiority of GOD. And finaly the hows and the whys and whens and wheres remain beyond my jurisdiction. They remain HIS.


                    The variants on that theme are as inumerable as grains of sand on a Baltic beach shore. And for some; this may indeed include the legal mechanism to faciltate death thru a medical assistence measures etc..


                    because I submit to you..... ole son of the truckdrivers of the Panhandle association, that if that is what one presumes to wish then he has not violated either GOD's MANDATE ON DEATH OR GOD's GOOD TIME.

                    "For no one knows the ways and mind of the LORD."


                    Nor should they presume to dispute HIS choice of tools in the execution of his methodolgy... Free will is no more a matter of choice.... then justice can not be described as an abstract concept.


                    For even in your 'free will' you do the 'work of the LORD' hence is it really free.....

                    I think not.


                    but who loves ya Primo?

                    Last edited by Centrix Vigilis; 22 Jul 07, 11:10.

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                    • #11
                      I support Euthanasia, because if someone is going to commit suicide I'd rather it be with the help of a doctor who can explain to the person about whats happening, and at least try to get them some help.

                      I bet most suicides in the US could be prevented if the person just had someone to talk to before they pulled the trigger.

                      But as for the right to die kind of Euthanasia, I think the person needs to have a living will, otherwise there needs to be a concensus amongst the (immediate) family.

                      Personally, I don't want someone to pull the plug on me. If I become a vegtable, you freeze my body until they find a cure, dangit!



                      S.Inc. found a cure years ago, but discarded it. Hey, they're an evil corporation, and helping people is not in the mission statement!

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                      • #12
                        You want to die, fine, kill yourself. It's not for me to judge.

                        You're dying anyway and don't want to linger, fine, kill yourself. I won't judge you.

                        You make the decision to euthanize another person without their knowledge or consent, well, I'm going to judge you for that. If a person can't make an informed, coherent decision, then it's not euthanasia, it's murder.
                        Love. Where does it come from?
                        from The Thin Red Line

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                        • #13
                          You make the decision to euthanize another person without their knowledge or consent, well, I'm going to judge you for that. If a person can't make an informed, coherent decision, then it's not euthanasia, it's murder.

                          Tis well said Dolley...'spousie of chum Slug'.....for murder, not death, no....not even execution, is an abhorrent before the LORD.....but even in this; HIS will is being SERVED. 'Let those with eyes see...and ears hear....'

                          best
                          CV

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Geek44 View Post
                            I watched my mother die for three years with emphysema. What really cooked my goose was when she was having a bad day in the second year. She looked at me and said 'I really wish I'd got cancer instead'.
                            I totally support voluntary euthanasia and did even before my mother got sick. She wanted to die but not straight away. It took her maybe a year to be ready for it and when she did get ready, she was a changed woman. She became what I wish she'd been able to be during her healthy years. Happy and at peace with herself. She died of pneumonia in a nursing home at the age of 62. My Dad followed her six months later. Funny how that happens.
                            Yes very sad I have no problems of volunteering to die but how about those who are in a vegitable state If I was like that I would want my family to let me die if I would be like that for the rest of my life very scary thing to happen to you or a family member
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis View Post
                              You make the decision to euthanize another person without their knowledge or consent, well, I'm going to judge you for that. If a person can't make an informed, coherent decision, then it's not euthanasia, it's murder.

                              Tis well said Dolley...'spousie of chum Slug'.....for murder, not death, no....not even execution, is an abhorrent before the LORD.....but even in this; HIS will is being SERVED. 'Let those with eyes see...and ears hear....'

                              best
                              CV
                              Hey CV how are you just to say maybe it is gods will for somebody to die thrue Euthanasia but you are right that it should be volunteerly and only if the person is seriously i'll and know he or she will die but wants to get it over with by teh way I do not follow religone so I don't bring religone into my comments just my oponions
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