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    The reincarnated children: New book tells the extraordinary story of the children who believe they are a WWII pilot, star golfer and a Hollywood agent from a past life – and have this scientist utterly convinced

    • Dr Jim Tucker has spent the past ten-years documenting children who claim to have lived past-lives
    • Has encountered many examples of American children who claim to have been anything from a World War II fighter pilot to legendary golfer Bobby Jones
    • Through his research Dr Tucker has come to believe that the children are speaking the truth and that they have indeed been reincarnated
    • Bases the science for his theories in advanced quantum physics, arguing that human consciousness can move in time and space

    By James Nye
    Published: 07:48 EST, 20 November 2013 | Updated: 10:34 EST, 21 November 2013
    EXCERPTS;

    How could anyone possibly take seriously a three-year-old golfing prodigy's claim to be legendary 13-time major winner Bobby Jones? Or another boy from Louisiana who recalls being a Second World War pilot shot down over the Pacific?

    A world renowned professor for a start. Dr Jim Tucker's remarkable experiences with these children, many who can recall intimate details of their past lives in pin-sharp detail - and with no prompting - has led him to the conclusion that reincarnation is real.
    Over the past 10-years, Dr Jim Tucker has traveled the country meeting families and hearing fantastical incredible stories just like these, which he outlines in his new book, Return To Life: Extraordinary Cases Of Children Who Remember Past Lives.
    ...
    'The world just doesn't work as we think or assume it does. The cases I have examined don't come under a normal explanation of how we perceive the world,' said Dr Tucker, the Bonner-Lowry associate Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia.
    What he has found is that each child reveals their past life at an extremely young age - at usually two or three - and the memories manifest themselves as unusual episodes of streams of consciousness, recollections and sometimes as intense, thrashing nightmares.
    ...
    Ultimately, Dr Tucker's research finds that as these children approach the age of reason these unsettling memories of past-lives fade.
    Outlined below are four outlandish cases that Dr Tucker admits are not proof positive of past lives, but in his own words, 'the evidence provided by these cases makes it hard to come up with an adequate explanation.
    ...
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ncarnated.html

    With regard to James, the former WWII USN fighter pilot, I've read the book written by his parents and the case is very convincing.
    http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Survivor-.../dp/0446509345
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  • #2
    Isn't it odd that every so called reincarnated memory is of something out of the ordinary? No one ever seems to remember a previous life just being a peasant tending the fields day after day and then just dying.
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    • #3
      From a scientific standpoint it would be an odd thing to remember a past life even if reincarnation does happen. Your memories are all stored in your brain and science has found even that isn't solid storage. Memories can be altered and deleted and even fabricated. If we do have a soul and it gets transplanted, the old memories are still lodged in the old and now corrupted hard drive of the previous vessel.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
        From a scientific standpoint it would be an odd thing to remember a past life even if reincarnation does happen. Your memories are all stored in your brain and science has found even that isn't solid storage. Memories can be altered and deleted and even fabricated. If we do have a soul and it gets transplanted, the old memories are still lodged in the old and now corrupted hard drive of the previous vessel.
        And that's why this belongs in Pseudoscience.
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        • #5
          How many four year old males in the USA (born post 2000AD) would know about the CVE Natoma Bay, the names of other pilots in 'their squadron' shot down and killed before them, or close details of their childhood to share with an 80+ year old sister when met at a crew reunion.

          Love that knee-jerk, bias rejection without even going through the material. Typical "open-mind" objectivity.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by OpanaPointer View Post
            And that's why this belongs in Pseudoscience.
            Pseudoscience requires some actual science mixed in. This is just the pseudo part...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
              How many four year old males in the USA (born post 2000AD) would know about the CVE Natoma Bay, the names of other pilots in 'their squadron' shot down and killed before them, or close details of their childhood to share with an 80+ year old sister when met at a crew reunion.

              Love that knee-jerk, bias rejection without even going through the material. Typical "open-mind" objectivity.
              One has to be careful with these "little kid remembers" stories, be they from supposed reincarnation or NDEs. Often times the parents, even by accident, coach the kid into embellishing the narrative. In one such NDE a little boy started with a story of seeing Jesus and that's all he said but as the parents kept digging the story started expanding and eventually it gets to the point where the kid is saying things like seeing his father using a sword to do battle at the end times.

              In the case of the "little fighter pilot" it looks like all that happened were some curious nightmares and it wasn't until after the parents started pushing this possible narrative that the kid suddenly starts having "memories" of past events.

              Now mind you I do believe in the existence of a soul and a greater spirituality. I'm not an atheist. I just feel that this isn't the best hill to stake your flag on. I am skeptical of reincarnation memories and NDEs, especially when the stories get more elaborate as the situation progresses. That's a red flag for coaching and embellishment.
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              • #8
                I'm a skeptic, but by Gum I wish that this was real.

                Just dieing and never seeing any of my family again scares the living hell out of me.

                Got to agree with Mark. The mundane is never considered in these cases, its always the memory of someone who has lead a life that people read about.

                and therein lies the rub that proves its all baloney.

                Does anyone want to recall their life as the Wiper of the Royal Anus in Shaka's kingdom? Or someone from a Bantu tribe "smelled out" and accused of witchcraft, then ritually executed by having stakes pounded into their rectum with a mallet?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                  One has to be careful with these "little kid remembers" stories, be they from supposed reincarnation or NDEs. Often times the parents, even by accident, coach the kid into embellishing the narrative. In one such NDE a little boy started with a story of seeing Jesus and that's all he said but as the parents kept digging the story started expanding and eventually it gets to the point where the kid is saying things like seeing his father using a sword to do battle at the end times.

                  In the case of the "little fighter pilot" it looks like all that happened were some curious nightmares and it wasn't until after the parents started pushing this possible narrative that the kid suddenly starts having "memories" of past events.

                  Now mind you I do believe in the existence of a soul and a greater spirituality. I'm not an atheist. I just feel that this isn't the best hill to stake your flag on. I am skeptical of reincarnation memories and NDEs, especially when the stories get more elaborate as the situation progresses. That's a red flag for coaching and embellishment.
                  No $h!+. Remember Clinton's AG, Janet Reno? She used repressed memories and the like with little kids to make a name getting supposed child molesters and abusers. Everyone... 100%... of her cases using this were eventually overturned with real evidence that showed the kid's "testimony" was crap or coached.

                  http://www.gspalaw.com/repressed-mem...al-or-fantasy/

                  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...etc/miami.html

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Drusus Nero View Post
                    Having stakes pounded into their rectum with a mallet?
                    For free? Last time I had that done it cost me eighty quid in the 'Bird of Paradise Club'!!!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Drusus Nero View Post
                      I'm a skeptic, but by Gum I wish that this was real.

                      Just dieing and never seeing any of my family again scares the living hell out of me.

                      Got to agree with Mark. The mundane is never considered in these cases, its always the memory of someone who has lead a life that people read about.

                      and therein lies the rub that proves its all baloney.

                      Does anyone want to recall their life as the Wiper of the Royal Anus in Shaka's kingdom? Or someone from a Bantu tribe "smelled out" and accused of witchcraft, then ritually executed by having stakes pounded into their rectum with a mallet?
                      Ouch !

                      Certainly ,statistically -speaking ,the odds are that in previous lives we would probably all have been illiterate peasants but I wouldn't dismiss reincarnation as complete BS. It's been big in India for Millenia.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OpanaPointer View Post
                        And that's why this belongs in Pseudoscience.
                        Don't understand IT.
                        Can't explain IT.
                        Won't accept IT.

                        ... Therefore ...

                        Must be "Pseudo"~"Science" (Sorta like ACC/AGW).







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                        • #13
                          Reincarnation is as much a belief system as any other religon.
                          Show me the proof is my only retort.

                          Statistically, the likelyhood of my father meeting my mother is a very, very small number, and yet it happened, pushing out all the other statisticallly more likely other things that could have occurred. Many of those other possibilities were far the more likely to eventuate, (statistically speaking).
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                              One has to be careful with these "little kid remembers" stories, be they from supposed reincarnation or NDEs. Often times the parents, even by accident, coach the kid into embellishing the narrative. In one such NDE a little boy started with a story of seeing Jesus and that's all he said but as the parents kept digging the story started expanding and eventually it gets to the point where the kid is saying things like seeing his father using a sword to do battle at the end times.

                              In the case of the "little fighter pilot" it looks like all that happened were some curious nightmares and it wasn't until after the parents started pushing this possible narrative that the kid suddenly starts having "memories" of past events.

                              Now mind you I do believe in the existence of a soul and a greater spirituality. I'm not an atheist. I just feel that this isn't the best hill to stake your flag on. I am skeptical of reincarnation memories and NDEs, especially when the stories get more elaborate as the situation progresses. That's a red flag for coaching and embellishment.
                              In the case of "James the WWII USN Carrier fighter pilot" (USN trained thousands such, lost hundreds such in WWII, can't more "ordinary" than that ) his parents were history ignorant and spend a few years playing 'catch-up' to younger/newer James' details; read their book and the father mentions stacks of books from the library and going alone to crew reunions of the Natoma Bay to check and validate what his son was telling him. (Hope you've read the OP link and/or maybe did a bit more digging ). Also note the key recall factors mentioned in the OP article/link and beyond.

                              In the case of James the WWII USN Wildcat fighter pilot shot down/KIA, the newer/younger James recalls details many members here wouldn't/couldn't.

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