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    Coincidently on the day when the news was reporting the arrest of an Uber driver for committing multiple murders as a means of making his working day go by there was another item predicting that the advent of the driverless car would spell the end for Uber as we know it. Indeed it would mean the demise of cab drivers in general as taxis would be the first area where humans would be entirely replaced by robotics. In some parts of the world cab drivers have been a frequent target of crime and in others they have been perpetrators, for some their driving attitude has been a pain in the rear whilst for some they have been helpful. Will we miss them?
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    "Say, cabbie, where does a guy go in this town to find a little fun?"

    "Does not compute!"
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    • #3
      Uber is infinitely better than taxis in Dallas and Houston. It's less expensive, requires no direct payment to the driver, the cars are better, the drivers speak English and don't stink. I just hit the Uber icon on my phone and it tells my who will pick me up, when they will arrive and shows their location on a GPS map. The fare is automatically charged to my credit card and a receipt is emailed to me.

      Driverless cars are years, if not decades, away from common use on public streets here. When they do become available, they will be expensive and prohibitively expensive to insure for livery or public carriage services.

      So, they pose no near term threat to Uber, irrespective of the irrelevant gun nonsense.
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      • #4
        "Johnny Cab" is still a ways off in the future

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        • #5
          It will be cheaper to hire a driver than to install all the anti-vandal gear that would be needed to keep the cab operating.

          Remember that robot that travelled all over Europe but got trashed a few days into the States?
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          • #6
            http://inhabitat.com/nyc/google-sign...s-google-cabs/
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            • #7
              Comrade Deblasio signing a contract for a product that doesn't really exist is of little threat to Uber...
              Google’s Driverless Cars Run Into Problem: Cars With Drivers

              By MATT RICHTEL and CONOR DOUGHERTYSEPT. 1, 2015

              [...]

              One Google car, in a test in 2009, couldn’t get through a four-way stop because its sensors kept waiting for other (human) drivers to stop completely and let it go. The human drivers kept inching forward, looking for the advantage — paralyzing Google’s robot.

              It is not just a Google issue. Researchers in the fledgling field of autonomous vehicles say that one of the biggest challenges facing automated cars is blending them into a world in which humans don’t behave by the book. “The real problem is that the car is too safe,” said Donald Norman, director of the Design Lab at the University of California, San Diego, who studies autonomous vehicles.

              [...]

              Traffic wrecks and deaths could well plummet in a world without any drivers, as some researchers predict. But wide use of self-driving cars is still many years away, and testers are still sorting out hypothetical risks — like hackers — and real world challenges, like what happens when an autonomous car breaks down on the highway.

              [...]

              http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/te...vers.html?_r=0


              Driverless cars are useless until they can be programmed to deal with @$$holes.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                One Google car, in a test in 2009, couldn’t get through a four-way stop because its sensors kept waiting for other (human) drivers to stop completely and let it go. The human drivers kept inching forward, looking for the advantage — paralyzing Google’s robot.

                It is not just a Google issue. Researchers in the fledgling field of autonomous vehicles say that one of the biggest challenges facing automated cars is blending them into a world in which humans don’t behave by the book. “The real problem is that the car is too safe,” said Donald Norman, director of the Design Lab at the University of California, San Diego, who studies autonomous vehicles.
                Yes, you can be too safe. This points to a problem when paralysis from safety prevents progress. Humanity got where it is by taking risks. Eliminating all risk would paralyze humanity.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                  Yes, you can be too safe. This points to a problem when paralysis from safety prevents progress. Humanity got where it is by taking risks. Eliminating all risk would paralyze humanity.
                  Or worse...

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                  • #10
                    Looks like driverless cars will be restrictted, then, to whole areas of the road only with other driverless cars.

                    wouldn't it be better to simply develop a true mass transit system, saving much time, money, heartache, and dirty tricks?
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                    • #11
                      A high-tech world demands an intelligent and responsible population. Until we have the latter, we will not have the former.

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                      • #12
                        Gosh there are some real Abdullahmites on the forums
                        Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                          Gosh there are some real Abdullahmites on the forums
                          Just realists... An autonomous car would have to be programmed to be adequately aggressive when operating among human-driven cars.

                          AI ain't there yet. The HAL 9000 and Ultron models of the Toyota Prius don't yet exist.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                            Just realists... An autonomous car would have to be programmed to be adequately aggressive when operating among human-driven cars.

                            AI ain't there yet. The HAL 9000 and Ultron models of the Toyota Prius don't yet exist.
                            You're assuming that there will be human driven cars
                            Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                            Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                            • #15
                              I'm still waiting for Uber-Ambulance. One press of a button and a couple local yokels will toss you in the back seat of their Impala. No worries. Their natural enthusiasm will make up for their lack of emergency responder training. "No, that's not a cardiac monitor, that's my 8 track. Keep your bloody mitts off it..."

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