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  • Review of Two Books...the guiding lights.

    http://news.yahoo.com/heres-happens-...210900952.html
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

  • #2
    Would those be fiction?
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    • #3
      No more than Brothers Grim.
      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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      • #4
        This is beyond ironic: let's sit around comparing the level of violence in two completely mythical religious texts while deliberately ignoring the fact the Muslims are the ones using their text to inspire and commit murder, terrorism, genocide and conquest.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
          No more than Brothers Grim.
          Which has never been used to inspire terrorism, murder, torture, rape, genocide and conquest.

          see above

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          • #6
            Couple of relevant excerpts;
            ...
            While the New Testament led in mentions of the concept of love, the Quran leads heavily in mentions of mercy — thanks partially to Allah's title, "the merciful."
            ...
            Anderson is careful to point out the shortcomings of his findings more than once, noting the sensitivity of the issue his work tackled. By his own admission, his findings are "by no means intended to be conclusive."
            "Ours is a 30,000-foot, cursory view of three texts: the Quran and the Old and New testaments," Anderson wrote.
            Then there's the inherent issue in using automated tools to generate statistics that do not take context into account.
            ....

            So if I get this correct, the software looks for the numbers of times certain words appear, without applying context. 'Allah the merciful' often appears in Quran text that then go on to describe unpleasant things to do to non-believers, etc.

            An imbedded link in the OP article goes to some interesting items about text analytics and the Odin software used.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuUTb_-oyDA

            Along with no application of context, nor abrogation, and blurring Old and New Testaments, the "study" failed to consider another essential Islamic Scripture, the Hadith. Here is one frequently used and cited example;

            "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah."

            From;
            Book 001, Number 0033:
            It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah.
            http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religiou...t.php#001.0033
            One may find Numbers 0030, 0031, 0032 of related interest as well.

            And here a couple of samples from the Koran/Quran to show the value of context;

            [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.
            [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
            [5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
            [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
            [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.
            [47.5] He will guide them and improve their condition.
            [47.6] And cause them to enter the garden which He has made known to them.
            http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
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            • #7
              It's more than ironic, it's irrelevant. As even the study's author points out, there's no context used in the method selected. It's based solely on word count.

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