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  • Drought in America 2013- How has it affected You?

    http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...l_drought.html

    the NOAA predictions are in for the spring of 2013 - a Wet spring for the Eastern half of th e United states- presistance & developing drought for theSouth West/ Central west...
    How are you affected?
    Last edited by marktwain; 21 Feb 13, 13:33.
    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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    NOAA site

    Originally posted by marktwain View Post
    http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...l_drought.html

    the NOAA predictions are in for the spring of 2013 - a Wet spring for the Eastern half of th e United states- presistance & developing drought for theSouth West/ Central west...
    How are you affected?
    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/us-dro...bruary-12-2013
    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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    • #3
      So far not at all. If it affects grain prices perhaps the cost of bread might go up.
      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by marktwain View Post
        http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...l_drought.html

        the NOAA predictions are in for the spring of 2013 - a Wet spring for the Eastern half of th e United states- presistance & developing drought for theSouth West/ Central west...
        How are you affected?
        We're Central West, but...

        Hardest on the farmers in Colorado, next on the ranchers, but also on the recreational businesses. Canon City is home to a number of very profitable river rafting outfits each spring and summer, but low water levels in the Arkansas pretty much ruin their bottom line.

        There will be watering restrictions during the summer, but otherwise we do surprisingly well for a state that depends primarily on groundwater.

        Biggest problem overall is the lessened snowpack in the
        Rockies which feeds all of our streams and rivers throughout each year, nd which also causes economic losses for the many ski areas.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          Why is this weather related subject in PC? How does politics effect a drought?

          Time to call Mayflower. A move is needed.
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
            Why is this weather related subject in PC? How does politics effect a drought?

            Time to call Mayflower. A move is needed.
            An' just WOT sort of Farmer are you,NAOW, i ASK?

            ACTUALLY ,IT IS A PRETTY MAJOR EVENT- THE DROUGHT OF THE CENTURY.

            No fodder, no cavalry horse.. no artillery teams-
            No malting barley
            Last edited by marktwain; 21 Feb 13, 15:31.
            The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
              Why is this weather related subject in PC? How does politics effect a drought?

              Time to call Mayflower. A move is needed.
              Actually, here in the Western states water, watershed, water rights and water use are huge political matters. In Utah this year it's been butt numbing cold but our snow pack is only at 81% overall where it should be. That means another crappy summer. Oddly enough the Sevier Mtn regions are above average this year, which is good, cause southern Nevada is a bit of a water hog.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                Why is this weather related subject in PC? How does politics effect a drought?

                Time to call Mayflower. A move is needed.
                The gentleman does have a point. Moved to the Barracks.
                Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.

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                • #9
                  In the Southwest, our drought is going on six years and as a result the Rio Grande at El Paso is empty. The Rio Grande depends an snow from the Colorado Rocky Mountains and from springs further downstream, also mostly snow dependent. Due to international agreement, Mexican agriculture gets first release of water and there is no return into the river until well downstream from the city. The Rio Grande would not exist further South were it not for the Pecos River in Texas and the Rio Concho from Mexico flowing into the Rio Grande in the vicinity of the Big Bend.
                  "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
                  George Mason
                  Co-author of the Second Amendment
                  during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                    Why is this weather related subject in PC? How does politics effect a drought?

                    Time to call Mayflower. A move is needed.
                    It's politics because of ludicrous claims like this...
                    Originally posted by marktwain View Post
                    An' just WOT sort of Farmer are you,NAOW, i ASK?

                    ACTUALLY ,IT IS A PRETTY MAJOR EVENT- THE DROUGHT OF THE CENTURY.

                    No fodder, no cavalry horse.. no artillery teams-
                    No malting barley
                    THE DROUGHT OF THE CENTURY?

                    The historical drought trend (or lack thereof) indicates that we just had the worst drought in a bit over 10 years (not 100) and that droughts of this severity occur about once every 8 years.

                    The drought of 2012 was pretty bad, about as bad as the droughts of 2000-2001, 1988, 1981, 1963, 1940, 1925, 1917 and 1910… But not nearly as bad as the protracted droughts of 1953-1956 and 1933-1936. And there is no increasing trend of drought severity or decreasing trend in precipitation over the last 117 years. We're less than 2 months into 2013... The drought status of the year won't be known for months.


                    No trend in drought severity or precipitation since 1895. Source: NOAA National Environmental Satellite, Data, and Information Service (NESDIS). http://www7.ncdc.noaa.gov/CDO/CDODivisionalSelect.jsp
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                    • #11
                      The drought here I'd say is over. We were 7" too dry at the end of 2012. Right now, we're over about 2-3" now. So we're evened up. And today we've had a bunch of little ice pellets, and lots of freezing rain. Sometimes it came down hard.
                      This bass guitar kills TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • #12
                        The good Doctor is forgetting

                        Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                        It's politics because of ludicrous claims like this...


                        THE DROUGHT OF THE CENTURY?

                        The historical drought trend (or lack thereof) indicates that we just had the worst drought in a bit over 10 years (not 100) and that droughts of this severity occur about once every 8 years.

                        The drought of 2012 was pretty bad, about as bad as the droughts of 2000-2001, 1988, 1981, 1963, 1940, 1925, 1917 and 1910… But not nearly as bad as the protracted droughts of 1953-1956 and 1933-1936. And there is no increasing trend of drought severity or decreasing trend in precipitation over the last 117 years. We're less than 2 months into 2013... The drought status of the year won't be known for months.


                        No trend in drought severity or precipitation since 1895. Source: NOAA National Environmental Satellite, Data, and Information Service (NESDIS). http://www7.ncdc.noaa.gov/CDO/CDODivisionalSelect.jsp
                        Which Century we are living in,

                        Actually, there is a major political battle between releasing the water upstream on theMissouri to allow Barge traffic betwene Keotuck& Cairo,

                        With the States of Minnisota & Wisconsin resisting drastic draw downs on the eupper watershed.. Plus how much can be withdrawn from the Great lakes at Chicago... to feed in at Rock Island
                        The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                        • #13
                          This past summer burned up our little tomato and pepper patch. The lawn turned brown for the first time in several years. Hubbie gave up on watering it.

                          We do not toil on our farm. Our renter does and we understand he had to sell some cattle because the creek had stopped running although it still had pools of water. It generally runs all year. When we were down there in late August, the hilltops were so dry that the grass crunched underfoot and you could see a lot of bare ground. The home county and several of the counties around it had “no burn” rules posted, so the grandsons could not fire off any fireworks. Their dad had to buy them paintball guns to keep them occupied.

                          We have 5.5 inches of snow on the ground right now and more is to come. One of the maps that I saw said that this snow storm will give us about an inch of total precipitation and we are in the range of 0—3 inches short. It will help the Mississippi to run at navigable levels well into spring as there is much more in northern Missouri.

                          When we had occasion the first part of February to cross the Mississippi at Bird Point, where the Ohio runs into the Mississippi, there were a lot of tow boats and barges tied up to the shores. I thought that was unusual and Hubbie said he bet it was because they could not go farther north up the Mississippi. We’d seen stories of how low the river was.
                          Homo homini lupus

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                          • #14
                            We played over in Randolph County-around Chester, and I have NEVER seen the mighty Mississippi that low. This was 3-4 months back. I was shocked. It looked as if I could walk across it and I'd have my head above water.
                            It disrupted my cousin's work too. He's a tug captain, and it stopped his trips northbound up that river too.
                            This bass guitar kills TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                            • #15
                              When we crossed north of St. Louis at I-270 could see big sand bars in the river south of the Chain of Rocks. Never saw that before. That was right after Christmas.
                              Homo homini lupus

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