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  • Philip's Little English Manor (erm... manner)

    For all those with a simple desire to learn or know the 'prim's & propa's' of the English language!


    Be you as unejumucated & fick as I, simply unsure or unknowing, or even wishing to improve or refine your use of the English language, I think this place might be of great value.

    Philip (PhilipLaos) has the creds, the actual experience & is hereby Lord & Master of the Manor All please show at least a reasonable degree of manners & respect in improving your English use & understanding while also recognizing that there is more than one way of the English word & its usage around the world. With each people, region & tradition there comes with them many idiosyncrasies & idiomatic variances in use of the language.

    Class Is In Session!

    Go For It, Philip!


    On the Plains of Hesitation lie the blackened bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to rest-and resting... died. Adlai E. Stevenson

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  • #2
    We don't need no education
    We donít need no thought control
    No dark sarcasm in the classroom
    Teachers leave them kids alone
    Hey! Teacher! Leave them kids alone!
    All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    youíre entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #3
      I kan spel rel gud and bake no type ohs two.
      Eagles may fly; but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines!

      "I'm not expendable; I'm not stupid and I'm not going." - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

      What didn't kill us; didn't make us smarter.

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      • #4
        Your mad !


        Last edited by VieuxChat; 29 Sep 12, 07:15.
        "To hell wars Grudges and parties ! As our fathers Sing in real friends, The clink of glasses Roses and lilies. The clink of glasses Roses and lilies."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
          We don't need no education
          Yes you do, that's a double negative.
          Wisdom is personal

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Karri View Post
            Yes you do, that's a double negative.
            Pink Floyd need's it. That is a quote, but not mine.
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            youíre entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
              Pink Floyd need's it. That is a quote, but not mine.
              Needs.

              Wisdom is personal

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Karri View Post
                Needs.

                Nerds
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                youíre entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                • #9
                  ^ It's embarrassing when a non-native English speaker has to correct a natural-born American's.

                  The good news is that we're not all Coal Miner's Daughters.

                  Rimshot
                  I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                  • #10
                    I have massive issues with the apostrophe. As probably does everyone else. I think most of it is caused by the word 'its'.
                    Wisdom is personal

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Karri View Post
                      I have massive issues with the apostrophe. As probably does everyone else. I think most of it is caused by the word 'its'.
                      They're perfectly acceptable in the English language. By the way, does Finnish proscribe double-negatives as English does, or are they accepted like in most other tongues?
                      I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Karri View Post
                        I have massive issues with the apostrophe. As probably does everyone else. I think most of it is caused by the word 'its'.
                        Yes, and you handle it better than most native speakers.

                        Until the return of corporal punishment for the incorrect use of there/their/they're, your/you're, and to/too/two, this regrettable state of affairs is set to continue.
                        Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Karri View Post
                          Needs.

                          Or "need". Certainly not "need's"

                          My view - descriptive rather than proscriptive:

                          Both 'need' and 'needs' can be used in this and similar cases.

                          Because, like football teams, governments, etc. you can think of a rock group as a single unit or as individuals.

                          Single unit: "Pink Floyd is a great band."

                          Individuals: "Pink Floyd are a great band."

                          Same with any collection of individuals. e.g.

                          "This government has failed!" (Thinking of the government as a single entity.)

                          "This government have failed!" (Thinking of the government more as made of individuals.)
                          "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."ó Bertrand Russell

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                            They're perfectly acceptable in the English language. By the way, does Finnish proscribe double-negatives as English does, or are they accepted like in most other tongues?
                            I have no idea. I can't even think of a single example...maybe we don't have it

                            My English grammar is way better than my Finnish.


                            EDIT:
                            I had to google it and only came up with one example that probably only a foreigner would use. So I think the Finnish language is constructed in a way that a double negative is almost impossible to make.
                            Last edited by Karri; 29 Sep 12, 10:52.
                            Wisdom is personal

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                            • #15
                              Mistakes made while typing on a phone should be exempted

                              Over the years, after my mom passed, I worked very hard on my English. If I wasn't able to perfect my VN, I was certainly going to make the effort on my English. Therefore, I always welcome Phillip's input.

                              Unless I am typing on this lousy phone which has a mind of it's own.

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