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    Why Black people have been took as Slave ??

    Ask that to Catholic Church !!

    In which aspect the catholic chuch is implied here ??

    during the XVIth Century spanish colonist have employed local indians as slave in their Haciendas and in their mines.
    Indians were living in very bad conditions, worst than domestic animals.
    A dominican monk, I think it is Las CAZAS, was so scandilized that he requested intervention of the Vatican against Spain. (don't forget that at this time Spain was as so powerfull as US today).

    Pope send its legat at Valldolid to have a controversial talk betwenn Las CAZAS and Spain colonists and king representative.

    At the end Pope Legat told that Indians are human beings and can't be put as Slaves, but but!!! As to protect spain interest which was the 1st Catholic power ( Luther became powerfull, France was under religious war ans England rejectv Pope authority). So Pope legat told that in Africa some black skin people can't be fully considered as human beings and can be put in slavery without going against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ!!

    This Know in History as the Valladolid controversial

    Dominus vobiscum, ite missa est, ite in Pacce Fratelis miis.

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    Last edited by jlbetin; 09 May 03, 10:02.
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    That is a bitter piece of history. Part of the history of my native state of California is the establishment of a network of Catholic missions that were basically small forts over the length of the west coast of the US. They were rich and prosperous plantations that kept native Americans in virtual slavery until this part of the Americas ceased to be a European frontier.
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      Slavery was a major enterprise that made many nations rich. It also benefited many African tribes. Aside from the material and money they recieved, it was a great way to get rid of rivals.

      No great historical subject is so laden with contemporary controversy or so obscured by myth and legend as the Atlantic slave trade - Hugh Thomas; author of "Slave Trade".
      "As soon as men decide that all means are permitted to fight an evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil that they set out to destroy."-Christopher Dawson - The Judgement of Nations, 1942

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        Originally posted by Deltapooh
        Slavery was a major enterprise that made many nations rich. It also benefited many African tribes. Aside from the material and money they recieved, it was a great way to get rid of rivals.

        No great historical subject is so laden with contemporary controversy or so obscured by myth and legend as the Atlantic slave trade - Hugh Thomas; author of "Slave Trade".
        Here what all the French have to apologize on

        I some of you had the luck to go at the City of Nantes (west Coast of France), there is a lot of Rich "Hotel" ( not sleeping house), built by fitter-out whose fortune was made upon triangular commerce. Bordeaux, Nantes ships go to Affrica coast, sell there glass jewelry against slaves, go to America sell slaves and buy colonial product, return to France where colonial products are sold in the European Market. Return on invest -> Kolossal.
        Slavery was stop in France in 1789/1790, reestablished for west indies colonist by Napoleon nearby 1799, and definitlyabolished in 1848 by a French Free Masson Victor Schoelcher after a bitter fight behind the revolutionary governement with the help of Alexandre DUMAS ( writer of the 3 musketers, he was 1/2 black and help to fight slavery).

        Liberté Egalité Fraternité

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