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  • #46
    Originally posted by delboy View Post
    Murphy's law. Nothing can beat it.
    Occam's Razor stalemates Murphy nicely
    BoRG
    "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Arthwys View Post
      Occam's Razor stalemates Murphy nicely
      The simplest answer is that Conlin will die a horrible and unexpected death?
      History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon. Napoleon Bonaparte
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Torien View Post
        The simplest answer is that Conlin will die a horrible and unexpected death?
        NO! I WILL DIE IN BATTLE WITH HONOR!!!

        Was that a good Falco-imitation voice?

        -Alexander

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Conlin View Post
          NO! I WILL DIE IN BATTLE WITH HONOR!!!


          Was that a good Falco-imitation voice?


          -Alexander
          Very good imitation. An homage, I would say.

          (I kinda miss the ol' bean.)
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Conlin View Post
            NO! I WILL DIE IN BATTLE WITH HONOR!!!


            Was that a good Falco-imitation voice?


            -Alexander
            You will die with your ostrich leg still firmly clutched in your hand.
            Flag: USA / Location: West Coast

            Prayers.

            BoRG

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Salinator View Post
              You will die with your ostrich leg still firmly clutched in your hand.
              mmmmm Ostrich. Good with salt.
              BoRG
              "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Torien View Post
                The simplest answer is that Conlin will die a horrible and unexpected death?
                [QUOTE=Conlin;1115321][CENTER]NO! I WILL DIE IN BATTLE WITH HONOR!!!

                Fair enough, but will you be expecting it?
                BoRG
                "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                • #53


                  Here I am waiting for Rubinus to assign officers and get this offensive going.....

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Commodore_1812 View Post


                    Here I am waiting for Rubinus to assign officers and get this offensive going.....
                    I'll be setting up and having a long lunch
                    BoRG
                    "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                    • #55
                      Sorry guys, the bush fires and other events have been too overwhelming. The smoke from the fires have been causing the power lines here to arc, thus I've had to deal with frequent outages and my modem suffers from even small power fluctuations.

                      Legion XXIV Apollinaris “Apollo revering”


                      I - General Rubinus
                      180 cavalry veterans from Legio VII Claudia Pia Fideliss (Faithful & Loyal)
                      50 light cavalry from Gaul middle.


                      II -
                      1000 Infantry recruits.
                      350 swordsmen from Gaul middle.
                      250 light cavalry from Gaul middle.
                      200 infantry veterans from Legio VII Claudia Pia
                      Fideliss (Faithful & Loyal)

                      III -
                      1000 Infantry recruits
                      500 swordsmen from Gaul middle.
                      300 Infantry veterans from Legio VII Claudia Pia
                      Fideliss (Faithful & Loyal)


                      IV -
                      1000 Infantry recruits.
                      200 Infantry veterans from Legio VII Claudia Pia
                      Fideliss (Faithful & Loyal)
                      250 Armenian recruits.
                      150 light cavalry from Gaul middle.
                      100 swordsmen from Gaul middle.
                      30 light cavalry on foot.
                      20 cavalry veterans on foot.

                      V -
                      1000 Infantry recruits
                      450 light cavalry from Gaul middle.
                      250 Armenian recruits.
                      100 Infantry veterans from Legio VII Claudia Pia
                      Fideliss (Faithful & Loyal)
                      Last edited by Admiral; 11 Feb 09, 17:34. Reason: Name change as per Fate
                      "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                      Ernest Hemingway.

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                      • #56
                        Cool... I had forgotten the Legio VII reinforcements with Legio X!

                        I repost such as to make things a bit easier...

                        Originally posted by Scipius
                        Legion XX Hercules

                        I -
                        1650 infantry middle
                        170 Cappadocian cavalry recruits


                        II - Scipius
                        150 cavalry middle
                        820 Nubian cavalry middle
                        250 Egyptian chariots middle


                        III -
                        1200 infantry middle

                        500 Greek hoplites veterans
                        250 Armenian infantry recruits (by provision of Senator Ariobarzanus)

                        IV -
                        1600 Greek hoplites veterans
                        200 Syrian cavalry recruits

                        Legion IV Scythia

                        I -
                        1000 infantry veterans
                        250 Armenian infantry middle (from former Royal Armenian army)
                        450 infantry middle


                        II -
                        1750 infantry veterans
                        100 Armenian archers middle (from former Royal Armenian army)
                        300 Armenian light infantry spearmen recruits

                        80 Armenian light cavalry recruits (Armenian volunteers)


                        III -
                        1750 infantry veterans

                        50 Armenian cataphract cavalry veterans (former cavalry of Royal Armenian Army)
                        250 Armenian infantry middle (from former Royal Armenian army)


                        IV - Scipius
                        90 cavalry veterans

                        190 Arabic horse archers veterans
                        30 Persian cataphracts veterans


                        V -
                        1800 eastern light infantry veterans
                        10 cavalry middle
                        10 cavalry veterans on foot
                        10 cavalry middle on foot
                        30 Roman cavalry recruits

                        Generals, I denote my Legios & designate 7 commands for your choosing - AFTER General Rubinus has placed the remaining commands within his Legio upon the field & opened for selection the 3 - 4 commands within his Legio. Depending upon General Rubinus' choices of various command compositions, we may need another General! I believe Lucius Tungus might make good use of one Command for his covert & dark purposes in & about the city of Nisibis. There is always a place for such resourcefulness of Romeland Security forces among the ranks arrayed for such a task.

                        I now place my Legios to the task that you shall each accomplish in complete unity of purpose & goal. It will be up to each of you to maintain discipline, contact, & cooperative effort between each and all of your fellow Commanders & General Rubinus, as well those of his Legio. Do not fear to think outside the box, for Fate has a nasty habit of not being so kind to those that remain mired within one.

                        I now order Legio IV to the line at a point North West of Oasis Ara such that the way to the eastern perimeter of Nisibis lies before them.

                        I now order Legio XX to the line at a point to the West of, & between the village of Zahhak & the Temple of Hyrcanus such that the Port of Nisibus, ample farm lands & the southern portions of the city of Nisibis lies before them.

                        In refusing to keep to much of my Cavalry tied down & restricted to such preponderant likelihood of near or often stationary service in this operation, I now stand forward & take all of Red Command south to secure or interdict the river down to, & likely to include the Parthian settlement of Singara, possibly even Dura, if the opportunity reasonably presents itself. I fully intend to make such a nuisance of myself upon the Parthian countryside such that the prisoners of Nisibis seek break out - be ever to your guard of it.

                        In that I ride with my Cavalry, and though I shall remain seized of the dispositions & strategic Command of my Legios from afar, I issue order to all of my own Commanders that General Rubinus shall exercise & hold full tactical command of all forces & machines of war that are arrayed to the tasks & operations about the City of Nisibus.

                        Victa Roma!


                        Scipius
                        Legatus
                        Legio IV, Legio XX
                        Military Commander - Armenia/ Parthia

                        (Remember, Gents... Wait for General Rubinus to Post his Starting Position & Commands before beginning to claim what commands you might desire in Legio IV, Legio XX, or his own... then, upon laying & confirming claim of any particualr Command - grouped by color - with Fate, begin your planning & movements... I shall remain 'somewhat removed' from your activities, but General Rubinus will not.)
                        Originally posted by Fate
                        If the Roman generals decide to lay siege to the Parthian city of Nisibis, they will have the following siege engines at their disposal:

                        2 SIEGE TOWERS (with a battering ram underneath)



                        4 HEAVY ONAGERS



                        4 TESTUDO'S



                        The generals may appoint these siege engines to any group of troops and officers under their command...

                        Fate
                        Originally posted by Fate
                        How are the outcome of individual battles calculated?

                        As I posted earlier:

                        recruits have 1 hit point !

                        middle troops have 2 hit points !

                        veteran troops have 3 hit points !

                        When battle is engaged, both sides will receive a dieroll.

                        Added to this score will be added

                        +1 point if they are middle troops

                        +2 points if they are veteran troops

                        Depending on the troops that are facing each other the following scores will be added (red = in the flank or rear):

                        Infantry vs Light Infantry= +2 for infantry - -1 hit point light infantry

                        Infantry vs Infantry= No bonus - + 2 in flank or rear

                        Light cavalry vs Light Infantry= /

                        Light cavalry vs Infantry= No bonus - + 2 for light cavalry in flank or rear

                        Cavalry vs Light Infantry= /

                        Cavalry vs Infantry= +2 for cavalry - + 4 for cavalry in flank or rear

                        Cavalry vs Light Cavalry= +2 for cavalry - - 1 hit point light cavalry

                        Cavalry vs Cavalry= No bonus

                        If an officer finds himself admidst his troopers during an attack, he will be allowed to add his popularity score to this score...but of course, in this case he runs the risk of dying among his men.

                        Troops run the risk of fleeing the battlefield when:

                        Outnumbered 2:1 or more...
                        Hit in the flank or the rear...
                        Infantry is attacked by cavalry...

                        In this case the Quality of the officer's troops is tested, if positive the troops will stand fast, if not, the troops will start wavering and only the presence of a popular officer will be able to turn the tide.

                        The Insight score finally, will determine if troops are succesible to flank or rear attacks...

                        Slingers, archers and horse archers:

                        When troops face slingers, archers and horse archers, a die will be rolled to determine how much damage the volley's will cause:

                        1 = loss of 5%
                        2 = loss of 10%
                        3 = loss of 15%
                        4 = loss of 25%
                        5 = loss of 30%
                        6 = loss of 40% !!!

                        Example:

                        800 Roman infantry middle are attacked by 350 Parthian Cataphracts veteran:

                        The Roman infantry is being led by Antiochus Pacco but he IS among his troops and the Cataphracts by Artarxes who is NOT among his troops.

                        The Romans get a dieroll of 5
                        The Parthians get a roll of 2
                        The Romans get + 1 bonus because they are regular troops
                        The Parthians get a +2 bonus because they are veterans
                        The Parthians get an additional bonus of 2 points because they are attacking the Romans head on.
                        The Roman troops run the risk of fleeing the field of battle because they are confronted by heavy cavalry...so a "Quality" die roll is done:
                        A 6 is rolled and Antiochus' Pacco's troops have a quality of 3, thus they are wavering ! Luckily their officer is among the troopers and so they gain a +2 bonus on their final score...

                        The total of the battle is now:

                        The Romans 5 + 1 + 2 = 8
                        The Parthians 2 + 2 + 2 = 6

                        As you can see the Roman infantry won the attack because they have a score of 8.
                        The Parthian cavalry now loses 1 hit point.
                        The victory of the infantry is largely thanks to the presence of the officer Pacco's among the ranks. Had this not been the case, the score would have been EVEN, but since the Roman troops were wavering it would have led to the break-up and destruction of the Roman formation !!!

                        To end this battle, a die must be rolled to see if the officer Pacco will fall amongst his men. A 4 is rolled and the "Luck" score of Pacco is 2...unfortunately Antiochus Pacco is mortally wounded !!!!

                        Hope this is clear enough.

                        Please remember that I tried to make these rules as easy as possible to understand and process. It was not my intention to make them as "real" as possible...

                        Of course I am open for ideas or thoughts...

                        Greets,
                        FATE
                        Originally posted by Fate
                        Alright, here's the list of officers the players of SPQR can choose to play in the (final?) offensive in Parthia.
                        Obviously, Admiral will play general Scipius and Achtung Baby will play general Rubinus and therefore cannot choose an officer !!!

                        Usually I let the players determine the characteristics of their characters themselves but this time I will not because otherwise all the officers will have an insight score of 6...and I wanted to prevent this because in every army there are excellent, good, mediocre and also just plain BAD officers

                        Quintus Flavius

                        Quality 3
                        Insight 2
                        Popularity 3
                        Luck 5

                        Publius Scaurus “the Scar”

                        Quality 3
                        Insight 1
                        Popularity 2
                        Luck 6

                        Gnaeus Maximus

                        Quality 4
                        Insight 5
                        Popularity 6
                        Luck 2

                        Aemilius Garbo

                        Quality 1
                        Insight 3
                        Popularity 5
                        Luck 4

                        Tiberius Decimus

                        Quality 5
                        Insight 2
                        Popularity 2
                        Luck 4

                        Lucius Thrax

                        Quality 3
                        Insight 5
                        Popularity 4
                        Luck 4

                        Enemnogenus “the Short”

                        Quality 6
                        Insight 3
                        Popularity 3
                        Luck 4

                        Saulius

                        Quality 3
                        Insight 6
                        Popularity 4
                        Luck 3

                        Arses “the Scythian”

                        Quality 2
                        Insight 3
                        Popularity 6
                        Luck 3

                        Antiochus Pacco

                        Quality 3
                        Insight 4
                        Popularity 2
                        Luck 2

                        Meaning of characteristics:

                        Quality
                        What is the quality of the troops under his command? Have they been well trained and disciplined or will they quickly flee from the battlefield when confronted by superior Parthian forces?

                        Insight
                        What is the tactical insight of the commander? Does he easily oversee the dangers approaching him or will he fall for the oldest Parthian trick in the book? Will he be able to give orders quickly if his men are threatend to be attacked from the flank? Does he possess this warrior "gut feeling" for imminent danger?

                        Popularity
                        Is this officer loved by his troopers? Will his presence amidst the rankers during a struggle create that extra effect to gain victory? Will his men lose heart easily if their officer falls among them or will it instead give that extra adrenaline to overcome their ennemies in a desperate last stand?

                        Luck
                        Is this officer lucky? Will he be quickly felled by an arrow? Will he easily fall amidst his men or can he be wounded 10 times and still survive the ordeal?

                        Greets,
                        FATE

                        PS: By the way...6 is the highest score to get on the characteristics!
                        Originally posted by Fate
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by Achtung Baby


                        So, after the suprise night attack by Scipius' cavalry on the 26th, the Roman army made alot of territorial gain and although the main Parthian army has not been reached, the legions stand now in striking distance from the city of Nisibis (the RED LINE on the map is the furthest Roman position after the night offensive).

                        As you can see, they have reached the suburb town of BEYDAR in the north and the farmer village of ZAHHAK to the west. Now as turn 7B has started, general Scipius and generals Rubinus will have to decide how the Roman forces will go on from there in order to defeat the Parthian army under Phraates.
                        The commanders will be allowed to position the army behind the RED LINE under command of various officers, but may also position troops OUT OF THE MAP in the immediate surrounding area. The various commanding officers will be played by the various SPQR players -if they are interested of course .

                        Remember, the ensuing campaign against Phraates has nothing to do with the situation in Rome or Armenia. The various officers, together with General Scipius and Rubinus, will form ONE team against ME, Phraates of Parthia

                        Once the interested players have chosen their officers from a predetermined list of characters, the generals will decide which troops they will be command (the reserve, the scouts, the light infantry, the infantry of legio XXIV, the cavalry of legio IV etc...)...
                        Let the choosin begin - har!


                        Scipius
                        Legatus
                        Legio IV, Legio XX
                        Military Commander - Armenia/ Parthia
                        On the Plains of Hesitation lie the blackened bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to rest-and resting... died. Adlai E. Stevenson

                        ACG History Today

                        BoRG

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                        • #57
                          I'll take this:

                          Enemnogenus “the Short”

                          Quality 6
                          Insight 3
                          Popularity 3
                          Luck 4

                          Legion XX Hercules
                          III -
                          1200 infantry middle
                          500 Greek hoplites veterans
                          250 Armenian infantry recruits (by provision of Senator Ariobarzanus)

                          OK?

                          Tor
                          History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon. Napoleon Bonaparte
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                          • #58
                            By your leave Legatus I volunteer the following:

                            Quintus Flavius

                            Quality 3
                            Insight 2
                            Popularity 3
                            Luck 5

                            IV -
                            1600 Greek hoplites veterans
                            200 Syrian cavalry recruits

                            I Await my orders and disposition.
                            BoRG
                            "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post
                              Sorry guys, the bush fires and other events have been too overwhelming. The smoke from the fires have been causing the power lines here to arc, thus I've had to deal with frequent outages and my modem suffers from even small power fluctuations.

                              Ahh location: Victoria...Australia? My sympathies. I used to fight wildfires and we always spoke of not wanting to fight the Aussie burns. The vegetation down there is down-right explosive!

                              I hope you and all of yours are well and safe.
                              BoRG
                              "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                              • #60
                                then I shall take.

                                Legion IV Scythia

                                III -
                                1750 infantry veterans
                                50 Armenian cataphract cavalry veterans (former cavalry of Royal Armenian Army)
                                250 Armenian infantry middle (from former Royal Armenian army)

                                Ready and Waiting.
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                                I'm not lying I'm Just Improving the truth

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