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  • Rnd 2 Grp 1 - A7V (Germany) vs BT-5/7 (Soviet Union/Russia)

    Round 2, Group 1: A7V (Germany) vs BT-5/7 (Soviet Union/Russia)


    The A7V sat at the heavy end of the spectrum for a tank serving in WW1. It had decent armament, pretty good armour by WW1 standards and just passable performance over rough terrain; though in this aspect it was easily outclassed by the British rhomboidals. Only a small number (20) was produced and it arrived very late in the conflict, so these factors also can be taken to impact on its significance.

    Developed in the 1930's, the BT tanks were very heavily based on Christie’s fast medium designs; indeed, the first series produced BTs were virtual copies of one of them. The BT was just about unique in large-scale production tanks, in that it provided a wheel-cum-track option; i.e. the tracks could be removed and the tank could travel more quickly if required (ground permitting, of course). The BT-5/7 was built in large numbers.

    Which of these will you vote for?


    Only one of these two candidates will make it to the next round!

    Which of them is the most significant and/or influential?



    Candidate #12 - A7V (Germany)

    Active Service Entry – 1918
    Weight – 33 metric tons
    Top Speed – 15 km/h (9 mph)
    Main Armament – 57mm gun (‘Male’); 6 x 7.92mm MGs (‘Female’)
    No. Produced – 20

    For further basic info, see Wiki here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A7V








    Candidate #14 - BT-5/7 (Soviet Union/Russia)

    Service Entry – 1933 (BT-5); 1935 (BT-7)
    Weight – 11.5 metric tons (-5); 13.9 metric tons (-7)
    Top Speed – Wheels: 72 km/h (45 mph); Tracks: 50 km/h (31 mph)
    Main Armament – 45mm gun
    No. Produced – (-5 & -7 combined) approx. 7,500

    For further basic info, check Wiki here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_tank
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT-7

    Captured BT-5 in Finnish service


    BT-7




    Consider the criteria with care! You decide!



    92
    A7V (Germany)
    13.04%
    12
    BT-5/7 (Soviet Union/Russia)
    86.96%
    80

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by panther3485; 26 Jul 14, 02:33.
    "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

  • #2
    BT-5/7
    Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

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    • #3
      Voted for the BT as well.

      The A7V was just a huge brick on tracks but the BT had a future.
      "A foolish man thinks he knows everything if placed in unexpected difficulty; but he knows not what to answer, if to the test he is put."

      --Hávamál

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      • #4
        I voted for the thing that looks like a tank
        you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

        CPO Mzinyati

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        • #5
          The A7V was very influential on the planet Tattooine, but not on planet Earth.
          "Looting would not be tolerated within the Division, unless organised with the knowledge of C.O.'s on a unit basis."
          - 15/19 Hussars War Diary, 18th March 1945

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          • #6
            BT-5/7 (Soviet Union/Russia)

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            • #7
              BT-5/7 was just more influential.

              Pruitt
              Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

              Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

              by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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              • #8
                BT-5/7 for me. Use of a turret for its main gun, and Christie suspension. ie stuff that help define the modern tank.

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                • #9
                  BT-5/7 (Soviet Union/Russia)

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                  • #10
                    LOOK! A Russian tank with well sloped front armor, good suspension, a good gun (for its time) and good speed. It must be the greatest tank in the world. Got my vote.
                    John

                    Play La Marseillaise. Play it!

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                    • #11
                      BT-5/7: this machine was a servicable precursor to more modern armor, while the German A7 was a dinosaur, an evolutionary dead end.
                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        BT-5/7: this machine was a servicable precursor to more modern armor, while the German A7 was a dinosaur, an evolutionary dead end.
                        Exactly right
                        BoRG
                        "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by andrewza View Post
                          I voted for the thing that looks like a tank
                          Agree!

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                          • #14
                            What is the A&V doing here?
                            The only influence it could have had was to convince people that Tanks were a bad idea!
                            "Why is the Rum gone?"

                            -Captain Jack

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                              What is the A&V doing here?
                              The only influence it could have had was to convince people that Tanks were a bad idea!
                              The German A7V is only here in Round 2, because it got through Round 1 successfully. In that round, it was up against the French Saint Chamond.

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Chamond_(tank)

                              Speaking for myself; but I voted for the Saint Chamond. It was one of the two closest run polls in Round 1, with the A7V winning by 47 votes to 43.
                              "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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