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  • Rnd 1 Grp 4 - T-55 (Russia) vs T-62 (Russia)

    Round 1, Group 4: T-55 (Russia) vs T-62 (Russia)


    This final pairing for Round 1 gives us the T-55 vs the T-62. Both types have been represented in Group 3. Both types of tank have “soldiered on” through all of the time covered in Group 4 up to the present day.

    As we have already addressed them pretty well in the previous group, there’s no need to add much here, except this:
    Each of these tanks was against a different opponent in Group 3. Regardless of whether one, both or neither comes out on top within that group, here we can determine which should rate above the other for significance and influence.

    The combined outcomes will influence our pairings for Round 2.


    Only one of these two candidates will make it to the next round!

    Which of them is the most significant and/or influential?



    Candidate #58 - T-55 (Russia)

    Service Entry – 1958/59
    Weight – 38-40 metric tons (give or take a margin, with variants)
    Top Speed – 50 km/h (31 mph)
    Main Armament – 100mm gun
    No. Produced – 100,000+ (includes T-54)

    For further info, check these:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-54/55
    http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product415.html















    Candidate #59 - T-62 (Russia)

    Service Entry – around 1963
    Weight – 40 metric tons
    Top Speed – 50 km/h (31 mph)
    Main Armament – 115mm smoothbore gun
    No. Produced – 23,000 (approx.)

    For further info, check this on wiki:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62














    Consider the criteria with care! You decide!


    85
    T-55 (Russia)
    60.00%
    51
    T-62 (Russia)
    40.00%
    34

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by Skoblin; 27 Jun 14, 14:26.
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    While the T-55 has been the mainstay of many armies since the early Cold War period, the T-62 had special impact on Western thinking regarding weapons and gunnery. When I first attended the US Army Armor School in `77, the T-62's 115 mm gun and it's performance in the 1973 Arab-Israeli War was generating serious debate in the US Armor community.
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    • #3
      Based on numbers built, and the fact it was still being manufactured by the Soviets had finished with the T-62, the T-55 nails it for me.
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      • #4
        The Israelis captured lots of both tanks in 1973. They modified the heck out of the T-54/55, yet left the T-62 as is.

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        • #5
          T-55. A much more fundamental design.
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          • #6
            The T-55. It was so influential on future marks of Russian armour.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
              Based on numbers built, and the fact it was still being manufactured by the Soviets had finished with the T-62, the T-55 nails it for me.
              Agreed. T-62 was derived from T-55, but unlike the medium tanks M3/M4 poll the T-62 was neither more widely used nor more numerously produced. Only ~20K T-62s were built, and they didn't feature significantly with Warsaw Pact forces outside the USSR despite also being built in Czechoslovakia. T-62 cost about 50% more than a contemporary T-55, but apparently didn't offer an equal improvement in effectiveness.

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              • #8
                T-62. That big gun gave the West something to consider, and big guns are now the norm everywhere.
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                • #9
                  Taken overall ...

                  ... for me, it seems that the T-55 has had greater and more far-reaching impact. This is not just about numbers built (more than any other tank type in history), employment with a long list of nations and participation in almost every - if not absolutely every - armoured conflict for a very long time. It is also that the design of T-62 was to a large extent based upon T-54/55 anyway.

                  For me at least, not a very hard decision at all.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by panther3485 View Post
                    ... for me, it seems that the T-55 has had greater and more far-reaching impact. This is not just about numbers built (more than any other tank type in history), employment with a long list of nations and participation in almost every - if not absolutely every - armoured conflict for a very long time. It is also that the design of T-62 was to a large extent based upon T-54/55 anyway.

                    For me at least, not a very hard decision at all.
                    Agreed. The T-54/55 gains tremendous significance based on how many have been produced and also a great many people have used them; this might be why so many have been produced. In that case it seems to have had very much influence on the prospective operators.
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                    • #11
                      You have to know when to let go that is why it is the T 62. Just progression.
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                      • #12
                        The T55 is one of the most successful Soviet designs ever. It has proven capable of being upgraded and remaining relevant even today.
                        The T62 was another attempt to shoehorn more gun on a vehicle hull that really couldn't take it. There are too many compromises in the design. The gun can only load at full elevation. That slows the ROF dramatically.
                        The gun shell casing discharge hatch often doesn't work with bad results for the crew. The driver has to button up for the turret to rotate. In the Middle East combined with the heavy workload of driving the vehicle many drivers suffered heat exhaustion or even heat stroke.
                        It isn't any better armored than the T55 nor is it more mobile. So, you are getting more gun at the expense of a very crudely designed vehicle.

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                        • #13
                          T-55 (Russia)

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                          • #14
                            In terms of design they're almost equal. I can't see much difference between the two other than number produced and different gun barrels.

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                            • #15
                              chose T-55,

                              Path-breaking design by Soviets,

                              They thought they will build app 50,000. tanks. according to rough estimates around 100000 are built. most used tank in the world.

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