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  • Rnd 3 Grp AB - Polikarpov Po-2 (SU/Russia) vs Supermarine Walrus "Shagbat" (Britain)

    Round 3, Group AB:

    Polikarpov Po-2 (SU/Russia)
    vs
    Supermarine Walrus "Shagbat" (Britain)




    Candidate #13 - Polikarpov Po-2 (SU/Russia)

    Service Intro - 1929
    Roles - trainer; ground attack; recon; liaison/general purpose
    Quantity Produced - 25,000 (very approx. - give or take a few thousand)
    User Nations - SU/Russia + at least 15 other countries

    For further info & some technical details, you can start with Wiki here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_Po-2









    Candidate #21 - Supermarine Walrus ("Shagbat") (Britain)

    Service Intro - 1935
    Roles - convoy patrol; anti-submarine; air-sea rescue; general recon
    Quantity Produced - 740
    User Nations - Britain, Argentina, Australia, Canada, Egypt, France, Ireland, New Zealand, SU/Russia, Turkey

    For further info & some technical details, you can start with Wiki here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Walrus








    Will you vote for the Po-2 or the Walrus?


    Only one of these two candidates will make it to the next round!


    Which of them is the more significant and/or influential?


    Consider the criteria with care! You decide!
    80
    Polikarpov Po-2 (SU/Russia)
    63.75%
    51
    Supermarine Walrus "Shagbat" (Britain)
    36.25%
    29

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by panther3485; 08 Feb 16, 07:58.
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  • #2
    Have to go with the Nightwitch's favorite ride!

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    • #3
      You can definitely call me out for being a bad armchair general. I had to vote for the Shagbat solely on the basis of its awesome name!

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      • #4
        While the Shagbat was a first in many areas of British design, the sheer numbers and usage of the Soviet plane wins here imo.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
          While the Shagbat was a first in many areas of British design, the sheer numbers and usage of the Soviet plane wins here imo.
          Agree. A real multi-use aircraft from pilot training and reconaissance to harassing GIs in the Korean Conflict

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          • #6
            My favourite aircraft gets a nice matchup.

            "Shagbat" is probably the worste ever name for a British aircraft. Jethro had lots of character, but must say goodbuy and gooluck to the "Mule" and its many roles, decades of faithful service, and many grateful pilots on the Eastern Front who may first have thought they were in a deathtrap, but found that the PO-2s top speed was just over the stall speed of faster fighters.

            I wish I could find an airfix kit of this one at my local.
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            • #7
              BTW, quantity produced of the PO-2 is unknown, but examples still fly safely and probably will for another 50 years.

              Numbers produced are more like 40,000 PLUS just for the military. Civilian examples are ubiquitous and probably uncounted.

              Far too many anti-Soviet votes here.

              Does not bode well for a fair assumption of this aircraft for future rounds. It's service record in WW2 alone and Korea should qualify it as THE most influential Bi-plane of all time.

              Let alone its multi role super excellence.
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              • #8
                I bet if the PO-2 had a more sexy name, (Like "Greatsetoftits" or something, it would garner much rosewater sentiment.

                At least people with real tits flew it in combat!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Drusus Nero View Post
                  I bet if the PO-2 had a more sexy name, (Like "Greatsetoftits" or something, it would garner much rosewater sentiment.

                  At least people with real tits flew it in combat!
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                  • #10
                    My heart says Walrus but my head says Po-2.

                    My head should win and it does.

                    Polikarpov Po-2; and if anything I think it really deserves to win by a bigger margin than this.
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                    • #11
                      Hang on - NATO had a codename (Mule) for an Aircraft from the 20s ?!?
                      That is awesome, honestly!
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                      • #12
                        A struggle between what are probably the two weakest contenders left. It's a race to the bottom...

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