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  • Rnd 2 Grp CD - Dornier Do 17/215/217 (Germany) vs Junkers Ju 88 (Germany)

    Round 2, Group CD:

    Dornier Do 17/215/217 (Germany)
    vs
    Junkers Ju 88 (Germany)




    Candidate #33 - Dornier Do 17/215/217 (Germany)

    Service Intro - 1937
    Roles - light & medium bomber; maritime strike; night fighter; recon
    Quantity Produced - 4,169
    User Nations - Germany + about 10 other countries

    For further info & some technical details, you can start with Wiki here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_17
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_215
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_217









    Candidate #51 - Junkers Ju 88 (Germany)

    Service Intro - 1939
    Roles - medium bomber; dive bomber; long range fighter; anti-shipping; night fighter/intruder; recon
    Quantity Produced - 14,980
    User Nations - Germany, Finland, France, Hungary, Italy, Romania, Spain

    For further info & some technical details, you can start with Wiki here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_88








    Will you vote Dornier or Junkers?


    Only one of these two candidates will make it to the next round!


    Which of them is the more significant and/or influential?


    Consider the criteria with care! You decide!
    83
    Dornier Do 17/215/217 (Germany)
    4.82%
    4
    Junkers Ju 88 (Germany)
    95.18%
    79

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by panther3485; 17 Jan 16, 02:53.
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  • #2
    "Die Wunder Bomben" vs "The flying Pencil"?

    Like putting the mosquito up against the Heinkel 115!

    Wunder bomben please!


    PANTHER... [B]dont forget The 88 was also an experimental testbed.

    Tie a broomstick to the 88 as well!
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Drusus Nero View Post


      PANTHER... [B]dont forget The 88 was also an experimental testbed.
      And so was the Do 217 However the Ju88 was also a missile in the form of the Mistel with raids carried out on various Soviet targets
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      • #4
        *holds nose and votes for the Ju-88* It was a remarkably versatile aircraft, though hideously ugly. Though not as ugly as the FW-190

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Drusus Nero View Post
          " ... PANTHER... [B]dont forget The 88 was also an experimental testbed.

          Tie a broomstick to the 88 as well!"
          It wasn't really my intention to provide every little detail.
          Hopefully, members will do some research of their own and from what I can see, plenty have done just that.
          A good number of you guys have thrown me stuff I could really use and that's been a help too; aircraft not being my forte.
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          • #6
            The JU 88 is the German equivalent of a Mosquito!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
              The JU 88 is the German equivalent of a Mosquito!

              Pruitt
              The Focke Wulf TA 154 Moskito was the German Mosquito.
              http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/474/pics/2_4_b1.jpg
              Made of wood with a top speed of 400mph. four nose cannon (2x 30mm and 2x 20mm.) - too late to enter service though - delayed because of problems with the glue.
              Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
              Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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              • #8
                No contest.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                  The Focke Wulf TA 154 Moskito was the German Mosquito.
                  http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/474/pics/2_4_b1.jpg
                  Made of wood with a top speed of 400mph. four nose cannon (2x 30mm and 2x 20mm.) - too late to enter service though - delayed because of problems with the glue.
                  No, the Ta 154 was a prototype that went nowhere. The Ju 88, like the Mosquito saw wide service in a number of roles and started out as a fast bomber.

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                  • #10
                    Some voting decisions were difficult, sometimes very much so. This was not one of those times.
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                    • #11
                      The one you can say about the Luftwaffe's twin engined bombers is they were the closest they would ever get to something like the Mitchell or the Mosquito.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        No, the Ta 154 was a prototype that went nowhere. The Ju 88, like the Mosquito saw wide service in a number of roles and started out as a fast bomber.
                        And was always dependent on defensive armament and made considerable use of strategic material unlike the Mosquito
                        Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                        Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                        • #13
                          Hmmm, both planes batting for the same side .... but ...
                          I regard the Ju 88 as being more successfully and truly multi-role than the Dornier series. Throw in the far greater numbers for the Junkers and this is a no-brainer for me.

                          Ju 88 it is.
                          "Chatfield, there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today!"
                          Vice Admiral Beatty to Flag Captain Chatfield; Battle of Jutland, 31 May - 1 June, 1916.

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                          • #14
                            Junkers Ju 88 (Germany)

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