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  • Rnd 1 Grp B - Heinkel He 111 (Germany) vs Tupolev SB (SU/Russia)

    Round 1, Group B: Heinkel He 111 (Germany) vs Tupolev SB (SU/Russia)




    Candidate #25 - Heinkel He 111 (Germany)

    Service Intro - 1936
    Roles - passenger plane; medium bomber; anti-shipping/torpedo bomber; transport; glider tug
    Quantity Produced - 6,508
    User Nations - Germany + at least 10 other countries

    For further info & some technical details, you can start with Wiki here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_111










    Candidate #29 - Tupolev SB (SU/Russia)

    Service Intro - 1936
    Roles - medium bomber; ground attack; maritime patrol; anti-shipping/submarine; supply dropping; glider towing; training
    Quantity Produced - 6,656
    User Nations - SU/Russia, Bulgaria, China, Czechoslovakia; Finland; Poland; Spain

    For further info & some technical details, you can start with Wiki here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_SB









    Will you vote for the Heinkel He 111 or the Tupolev SB?


    Only one of these two candidates will make it to the next round!


    Which of them is the more significant and/or influential?


    Consider the criteria with care! You decide!
    70
    Heinkel He 111 (Germany)
    87.14%
    61
    Tupolev SB (SU/Russia)
    12.86%
    9

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by panther3485; 12 Jan 16, 04:28.
    "Chatfield, there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today!"
    Vice Admiral Beatty to Flag Captain Chatfield; Battle of Jutland, 31 May - 1 June, 1916.

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    Heinkel 111.
    Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

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    • #3
      Tupolev SB is relatively little known in West, and for that reason unfortunately probably one of the most underrated aircraft in this tournament.

      When Andrey Tupolev's SB high-speed bomber entered service in the early months of 1936, it was arguably the most advanced aircraft of its time. Structurally, stressed skin was on the cutting edge of aviation technology in 1936. Its 410km/h top speed was higher than it's foreign counterparts like Do 17F, He 111B, Martin B-10 and roughly equivalent of the Mitsubishi G3M. Combined with a 8,500m service ceiling made the SB all but immune to fighter interception over Spain in 1937 and 1938, as well giving trouble to Japanese over Khalkin Gol and Formosa in 1939.

      Tupolev SB combat service in the late 1930s was that good that it actually slowed down development of successor models as it was more than adequate for the task, while He 111 underwent a series of modernizations giving it an edge in critical period of 1940-1941.
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      • #4
        I agree the Tupolev is under-rated to a degree but IMHO the Heinkel ultimately proved more significant.
        "Chatfield, there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today!"
        Vice Admiral Beatty to Flag Captain Chatfield; Battle of Jutland, 31 May - 1 June, 1916.

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        • #5
          Tupolev SB (SU/Russia)

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