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Rnd 4 Grp A-D - Albatros D.III/D.V/D.Va (Germany) vs Sopwith Camel (Britain)

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  • #31
    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Except it is almost 100% certain that it was ground fire that got him.
    Ground fire from Australian troops.
    "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by panther3485 View Post
      Ground fire from Australian troops.
      Yes, and the pommes kicked them to the curb taking the credit instead...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
        Yes, and the pommes kicked them to the curb taking the credit instead...
        Back then especially, we were considered to be little more than a branch of the "mother country" anyway. I guess part of that was the fact that when WW1 started, we'd only had our independence for 13 years. Before 1901 we were literally just a few sizeable bunches of "colonials" scattered across a continent. Not forgetting either that a portion of our earlier colonial history had us as little more than a dumping ground for convicts. The jails in Britain were overflowing! Anyway, better not say any more as I don't want to de-rail the thread.
        "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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        • #34
          Originally posted by panther3485 View Post
          Back then especially, we were considered to be little more than a branch of the "mother country" anyway. I guess part of that was the fact that when WW1 started, we'd only had our independence for 13 years. Before 1901 we were literally just a few sizeable bunches of "colonials" scattered across a continent. Not forgetting either that a portion of our earlier colonial history had us as little more than a dumping ground for convicts. The jails in Britain were overflowing! Anyway, better not say any more as I don't want to de-rail the thread.
          You guys only got the crims because the American prison colonies were closed for some reason...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by broderickwells View Post
            You guys only got the crims because the American prison colonies were closed for some reason...
            "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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            • #36
              Sopwith Camel.

              IMO, it had a greater impact than the D.III/D.V series.
              "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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              • #37
                Hybrids...

                Are we allowed in the next round to vote for the Sopwith Camel powered by the SE-5's Wolsey viper engine?

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolsele...haracteristics
                The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by marktwain View Post
                  Are we allowed in the next round to vote for the Sopwith Camel powered by the SE-5's Wolsey viper engine?

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolsele...haracteristics
                  We cannot in good faith introduce variations for any of the aircraft in this tournament, that could not be reasonably reckoned as present at the beginning of Round 1. For example, in the case of the Spitfire we have the Merlin and the Griffon; in the case of the Fw 190 we have the BMW 801 and the Jumo 213; etc; and the onus is on all members to make themselves aware of such variations from the start.
                  If a substantial number of Sopwith Camels saw service with a different engine, then members could deem this to be included in their deliberations anyway but if not, sorry, no go.
                  "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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                  • #39
                    Foiled, again-

                    Originally posted by panther3485 View Post
                    We cannot in good faith introduce variations for any of the aircraft in this tournament, that could not be reasonably reckoned as present at the beginning of Round 1. For example, in the case of the Spitfire we have the Merlin and the Griffon; in the case of the Fw 190 we have the BMW 801 and the Jumo 213; etc; and the onus is on all members to make themselves aware of such variations from the start.
                    If a substantial number of Sopwith Camels saw service with a different engine, then members could deem this to be included in their deliberations anyway but if not, sorry, no go.
                    I was attempting to sneak the Sopwith Dolphin in through the rear entrance


                    I suppose the mysterious Sopwith Bactrian, the little known twin Camel, is completely out of the question too, Gov'nor.?
                    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by marktwain View Post
                      I was attempting to sneak the Sopwith Dolphin in through the rear entrance


                      I suppose the mysterious Sopwith Bactrian, the little known twin Camel, is completely out of the question too, Gov'nor.?
                      Beginning to look like you might need to start up your own poll there, Reg.
                      Last edited by panther3485; 27 Apr 15, 03:44.
                      "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by panther3485 View Post
                        Ground fire from Australian troops.
                        Sergeant Cedric Popkin is my preferred candidate for firing the fatal shot.



                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        Yes, and the pommes kicked them to the curb taking the credit instead...
                        Captain Roy Brown was a pomme? I believe the Atlantic sperated this pilot from Britain .

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                        • #42
                          Yes. My understanding after 42 years "in country" is that the term "Pom" refers to the English only. Strictly speaking it usually doesn't even include other Britons such as the Scots and Welsh; and certainly not folks from the Commonwealth countries either unless they are (relatively recently migrated) English.

                          ... but I digress again.
                          "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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                          • #43
                            Article one of the Napoleanic Code violation..

                            Originally posted by panther3485 View Post
                            Beginning to look like you might need to start up your own poll there, Reg.
                            There is this rare photograph of the craft.

                            Unfortunately, in order to boost the octane rating it was run on a mix of 50% petrol, 50/% Canadian Labrusca grape fortified 'sherry.'

                            The French shot it down when it entered their airspace....
                            Canadian wine is forbidden in France under ALL circumstances....
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                            The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by marktwain View Post
                              There is this rare photograph of the craft.

                              Unfortunately, in order to boost the octane rating it was run on a mix of 50% petrol, 50/% Canadian Labrusca grape fortified 'sherry.'

                              The French shot it down when it entered their airspace....
                              Canadian wine is forbidden in France under ALL circumstances....
                              This is getting weirder and more offbeat with each successive post, Reg.
                              "England expects that every man will do his duty!" (English crew members had better get ready for a tough fight against the combined French and Spanish fleets because that's what England expects! However, Scotland, Wales and Ireland appear to expect nothing so the Scottish, Welsh and Irish crew members can relax below decks if they like!)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by panther3485 View Post
                                This is getting weirder and more offbeat with each successive post, Reg.
                                Ok, I'll cut back on the Four Aces fortified 'stuff'

                                Back on topic, the Albatross was saddled with an outdated engine,as the BMW III high compression engine was behind on production and supplies were assigned to the Fokker Junkers shotgun marriage consortium, or the Junkers D9 and the Fokker DII

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_IIIa
                                The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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