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  • March Offensive Finals - Caesar vs. Napoleon

    OK, it has come down to this. Two giants in their respective eras, each with lasting legacies affecting the present day world. These two men are going to square off in the finals of our contest, in which YOU voted them to this point. Who gets the nod for the final victory???

    Napoleon vs. Caesar

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    Note: This round has 2 slight changes. First, the polls will be public, which means everyone will see who voted for which general. Second, the reason for this is that we will be awarding a campaign ribbon to each person who votes in this round. This ribbon will appear on your profile, and as we do future tournaments your ribbon count will increase. A convenient way of showing our thanks for participating.
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    Napoleon
    59.70%
    80
    Caesar
    40.30%
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  • #2
    Tough pick. Both are masters of their battlefields. Both had triumphs and mistakes. And both have had a hand in shaping the world we live in today. Its tough it really is, but I'm going to have to go with Napoleon on this one. But Caesar is running a very very very tight 2nd.
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    • #3
      Old Boney remade warfare. Tactics and the Operational Art were not the same in 1815 as they had been in 1792 (to pick a date out of thin air). I don't think that G Julius Caesar had the same impact.

      It is a tough call.
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      • #4
        Gotta go with Caesar here.
        The muffled drums sad roll has beat the soldier's last tatoo. No more on life's parade shall meet that brave and fallen few.

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        • #5
          Napoleon provided for a French government and international system that lasted for years afterwards. His army destroyed enemy forces larger than his, he took an army to Egypt, got himself back to France, and campaigned across Europe.

          Caesar fought some Gauls, some Belgians, 'invaded' Britain, fought some Germans, fought Pompey, got stabbed.

          Napoleon created a military doctrine that revolutionized warfare. The supporting artillery, counter-infantry not counter-battery fire. Grande Battery? Combined arms operations. It is the Corsican here.

          (Why are all the greats from Italy?)
          For despite the silly sayings about violence never settling anything, history IS changed on the battlefield: ask the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
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          Introduction to 'Hammer's Slammers'

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          • #6
            Caesar, since he got Liz Taylor while she was still a hottie...
            I have no problem at all with being proved wrong. Especially when being proved wrong leaves the world a better place, than being proved right...

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            • #7
              Caesar. As much as Napoleon was a great and revolutionary General, he belived too much in his "own press" so to speak and his arrogance cost him dearly in the retreat from Moscow and with his losses that put him into his first exile and at Waterloo.
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              • #8
                Had to vote for Caesar.
                " Reality is interpretation according to a scheme which we cannot escape "

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                • #9
                  Vive l'Empereur!
                  And it's over the mountain and over the Main,
                  Through Gibralter, to France and Spain.
                  Pit a feather tae your bonnet, and a kilt aboon your knee,
                  Enlist my bonnie laddie and come awa with me.

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                  • #10
                    Hail Caesar!

                    It had to be done.

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                    • #11
                      Caesar, but "the Monster" has a good point or two.

                      Julius took on the Republic and established an Imperium that lasted nearly 500 years. Bested Nappy's by a long shot.
                      Last edited by The Purist; 07 Apr 07, 20:02.
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                      Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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                      • #12
                        The republic was pulling apart after Sulla took over. Caesar had enough spunk to get everyone together.
                        Napoleon took an ill-led army, a revolution that was tearing itself apart, and made a Republic/Empire that bested almost every army it met.

                        Caesar didn't set up any 'Imperium', that was good ole Augustus. Caesar simply began it when he was declared 'Dictator for Life' and had Augustus named his heir.
                        For despite the silly sayings about violence never settling anything, history IS changed on the battlefield: ask the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
                        -Jerry Pournelle-
                        Introduction to 'Hammer's Slammers'

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                        • #13
                          Erm,...how is,...

                          ...established an Imperium...
                          different from,...

                          ...Caesar simply began it...
                          The Purist

                          Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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                          • #14
                            Napolean for me.

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                            • #15
                              I have voted for Caesar all the way through and see no reason to change now!
                              Wolster

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