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  • Greatest Blunder - Napoleon in Egypt vs Crimean War (Round 1)

    Napoleon’s Egyptian Campaign 1798-1801



    Why?
    A French diplomatic blunder in Constantinople and the failure to gain the local people for the cause makes sure that the entire military – not scientific - campaign fails miserably.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_campaign

    The Egyptian Campaign (1798–1801) was Napoleon Bonaparte's unsuccessful campaign in Egypt and Syria to protect French trade interests and undermine Britain's access to India. Despite several victories and an expedition into Syria, Napoleon and his Armée d'Orient were eventually forced to withdraw by local hostility, British naval power, a newly reformed Ottoman army (Nizam-ı Cedid) and politics in Paris.


    The Crimean War 1853-1856



    Why?
    Russia versus everyone else for control of the assets of the fading Ottoman Empire. Colossal blunders from everyone all around as far as how the war was run & fought.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War
    http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/...historyid=aa47
    http://www.victorianweb.org/history/crimea/blunder.html
    http://www.victorianweb.org/history/.../blunder2.html

    Politicians & military leaders alike blundered throughout the course of this war. The battles of Alma, Sevastopol, Balaclava (including the “Charge of the Light Brigade”), Inkerman, & Eupatoria all had their moments of blunders from both sides. The British (Lord Raglan & Palmerston), French (Marshall St. Arnaud & Napoleon III), & Russian (Menschikov & Nicholas) forces all showed they had commanders capable of blunders not only in the battles listed above, but in the way that the men were supplied & the wounded taken care of…..highlighted to their respective countries because of the quickness of reporting due to the telegraph & the ability to take photographs. A tremendous storm that blew up right before winter set in destroyed most of the provisions & winter equipment that the Allies could have used to stave off disease & bad conditions for the troops.
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    Napoleon's Egyptian Campaign 1798-1801
    30.99%
    22
    The Crimean War 1853-1856
    69.01%
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    Last edited by Stratego; 16 May 10, 05:48.
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    Strange match.

    The Spinx's broken nose vs Charge of The Light Brigade.............
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Salinator View Post
      Strange match.

      The Spinx's broken nose vs Charge of The Light Brigade.............
      I don't think Napoleon knew the Riddle of the Sphinx.

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      • #4
        Crimean War. I still don't understand what it was about. Blunders abound!!
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        • #5
          At least Nappy's sojourn in Egypt netted a few scientific and cultural discoveries. i.e. the Rosetta Stone.
          The Crimean War was a debacle on all sides. The only ones to benefit were Florence Nightingale and Alfred Tennyson...
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          • #6
            I can't consider Napoleon's Egyptian adventure too much of a blunder...If the traitor Talleyrand had gone to Constantinople the chances are great that history would'eve been completely different !

            The Crimean War for me...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Stratego View Post
              I can't consider Napoleon's Egyptian adventure too much of a blunder...If the traitor Talleyrand had gone to Constantinople the chances are great that history would'eve been completely different !

              The Crimean War for me...
              I concur.
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              • #8
                For me the Crimean War was a logistical nightmare for the "Allies" and that term can be used loosely as the British and French had troubles coordinating much less getting along at the upper levels of their respective military leaders. Most had not forgotten Napoleon and some of the British had a very cautious view of their French neighbors.
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                • #9
                  Egypt maybe just another ego trip for Napoleon, blunder for his bosses (India is really close to Egypt on the map). The English and French at least had successful joint amphibious operations near St. Petersburg.

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                  • #10
                    What idoits don't prepare enough supplies for their troops (Crimean War) and expect to help them when they fall sick or wounded?
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                    Archduke Charles!

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                    • #11
                      Crimean, a pointless war, arrogance, pride and stupidity all round. One of Englands worst blunders.
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                      • #12
                        Crimean War...Thinning the thn red line for naughts and for too long

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                        • #13
                          Get your votes in now.........

                          Poll is set to close shortly!!!!
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                          • #14
                            This poll is now closed.........

                            However the thread remains open, so please feel free to continue discussion.

                            ACG wishes to thank all participants. We look forward to your continuing support in Round 2.
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