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  • WW2 Dogfight R1: Republic P-47 Thunderbolt vs. Grumman F6F Hellcat

    (I understand the consternation that people may feel about voting one of these off in the first round... The randomised seems to have given me a few like this...)

    Republic P-47 Thunderbolt

    The Republic P-47 Thunderbolt was one of the main US Army Air Forces (USAAF) fighters of World War II. The P-47 was a big, rugged, overbuilt aircraft that was effective in air combat but proved particularly useful as a fighter-bomber. The Thunderbolt also served with a number of other air arms.

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    Grumman F6F Hellcat

    The Grumman F6F Hellcat was an American designed carrier borne fighter. Its design began as a development of the F4F Wildcat powered by the R-2600 engine, but soon evolved into a much larger and more capable aircraft, with the R-2800 engine. The Hellcat was designed and put into service in a very short period in order to counteract the A6M 'Zero' from the second half of 1943 onwards, and soon became the main shipboard fighter of the US Navy for the last two years of the Pacific War. The Hellcat was the most sucessful allied fighter in WWII with over 5,000 aerial victories, and credited with 76% of all aircraft destroyed by USN carrier fighters.

    Fleet Air Arm Archive
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    Republic P-47 Thunderbolt
    67.74%
    21
    Grumman F6F Hellcat
    32.26%
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  • #2
    This is a hard choice! I give the P-47 an edge because I see it as better at altitude. Also I am assuming I can have a later model. The Hellcat had its moment of glory, but was outperformed by the most modern Japanese aircraft. In my mind its biggest asset was the better pilot training given by the USN.

    Pruitt
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    • #3
      P47, flying tank

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      • #4
        This was extremely difficult, as I was forced to choose between two of my alltime favorites. I have to go with the P-47.
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        • #5
          The P-47 was able to take a lot of damage, and even against a more nimble opponent was able to emerge victorious. I'll go with the P-47 for this reason.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
            This is a hard choice! I give the P-47 an edge because I see it as better at altitude. Also I am assuming I can have a later model. The Hellcat had its moment of glory, but was outperformed by the most modern Japanese aircraft. In my mind its biggest asset was the better pilot training given by the USN.

            Pruitt
            You must be thinking of the Wildcat. The Hellcat shot down more Japanese aircraft than any other fighter.

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            • #7
              John,

              The Hellcat came into use when the IJN had lost most of its experienced pilots. Even if we were still using Wildcats, we would have shot down large numbers. The later Japanese fighters were much better opponents, even with inexperienced pilots. Why do you think we were replacing the Hellcat with Corsairs and bringing on the Bearcat and Tigercat? The Shiden, Raiden, Hayate, Shoki and Ki 100 could take a Hellcat.

              Pruitt
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              • #8
                Crap! P-47
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                • #9
                  P-47 all the way.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                    John,

                    The Hellcat came into use when the IJN had lost most of its experienced pilots. Even if we were still using Wildcats, we would have shot down large numbers. The later Japanese fighters were much better opponents, even with inexperienced pilots. Why do you think we were replacing the Hellcat with Corsairs and bringing on the Bearcat and Tigercat? The Shiden, Raiden, Hayate, Shoki and Ki 100 could take a Hellcat.

                    Pruitt
                    I agree with Pruitt (although I'm trying to quit the habit )

                    Besides I like the P-47, an aircraft that can give punishment. And receive much punishment too and nevertheless, have its pilot fly back to his base.

                    And late Jug models in WW2 had as much range as the Mustangs.
                    Last edited by Capt AFB; 22 Dec 10, 12:02.

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                    • #11
                      The Jug, no question about it. Bigger, faster, stronger, higher, more guns, better visibility after they got away from the razorback.

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                      • #12
                        I've gotta go with the Jug..
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                        • #13
                          I saw a photo of a Jug after an escort mission over Germany, it had a fair size chunck of its right wing shot away and still survived, how it is beyond me, but gotta go the P-47 Thunderbolt.

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                          • #14
                            P-47...it was a beast! Took a lickin' and kept on tickin'!

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                            • #15
                              The Jug takes the prize.
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