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Grant vs. Einsenhower (Round III)

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  • Grant vs. Einsenhower (Round III)

    Here are some facts for each player to help you in your voting (From Wikipedia):

    Ulysses S. Grant, born Hiram Ulysses Grant (April 27, 1822 – July 23, 1885), was an American general and the eighteenth President of the United States (1869–1877). He achieved international fame as the leading Union general in the American Civil War. Grant first reached national prominence by taking Forts Henry and Donelson in 1862 in the first Union victories of the war. The following year, his brilliant campaign ending in the surrender of Vicksburg secured Union control of the Mississippi and—with the simultaneous Union victory at Gettysburg—turned the tide of the war in the North's favor. Named commanding general of the Federal armies in 1864, he implemented a coordinated strategy of simultaneous attacks aimed at destroying the South's ability to carry on the war. In 1865, after conducting a costly war of attrition in the East, he accepted the surrender of his Confederate opponent Robert E. Lee at Appomattox Court House. Grant has been described by J.F.C. Fuller as "the greatest general of his age and one of the greatest strategists of any age." His Vicksburg Campaign in particular has been scrutinized by military specialists around the world.

    Dwight David Eisenhower, born David Dwight Eisenhower (October 14, 1890 – March 28, 1969), nicknamed "Ike", was a General of the Army (five star general) in the United States Army and U.S. politician, who served as the thirty-fourth President of the United States (1953–1961). During the Second World War, he served as Supreme Commander of the Allied forces in Europe, with responsibility for planning and supervising the successful invasion of France and Germany in 1944-45. In 1951, he became the first supreme commander of NATO.

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  • #2
    Heartbreaking choice here as they are two of my favorite American generals... I'll pick Ike though, WW2 was my first love.


    • #3
      Grant; I find the Cold War quite tasteless. Otherwise, they are definitely comprable in merit.


      • #4
        Went for Grant.
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        • #5
          Has to be Grant


          • #6
            Man...tough choice for me. A man who fought against rebels vs a man who stood against communism...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Emil_G View Post
              Grant; I find the Cold War quite tasteless. Otherwise, they are definitely comprable in merit.
              I think you'd find that Eisenhower found the Cold War quite tasteless as well. I'm not sure why you'd use that particular criteria to vote against him.


              • #8
                Ike managed one theater with ego-centric but able subordinates, e.g. Patton, Monty, very well. Grant managed all the theaters with some useless political subordinates--e.g.,Banks, Bulter very well, have to go with Grant.


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Emil_G View Post
                  Grant; I find the Cold War quite tasteless. Otherwise, they are definitely comprable in merit.
                  Since when was World War 2 a cold war??


                  • #10
                    I like Ike, but Grant brought the end about the end of the US Civil War.
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                    What didn't kill us; didn't make us smarter.


                    • #11
                      Tough one !!!

                      Ike managed the "unified" allied commands on a worldly scale and became president...
                      Grant managed the victory of the northern army of one country engulfed in a civil war and became president...

                      Of course Grant can't help being born in the beginning of the 19th century and Ike can't help being born at the end of the 19th century !!!!

                      Although I have respect for Ike and his organization skills, I can't help but find him a "deskchair general" !!!

                      Sorry Ike, my vote goes to Grant, who's situation IMO has resemblance to that of George Washington...

                      Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily.- Napoleon

                      It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.- Herman Melville

                      Aut viam inveniam aut faciam



                      • #12
                        Ike gets my vote.

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                        • #13
                          Ike. He had a much more complicated environment to deal with.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                            Ike. He had a much more complicated environment to deal with.
                            Grant's circumstances were also very touchy and complicated. So those things being even, I'll take Grant just because he led in battle which Eisenhower never did.
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                            • #15
                              If this poll considered them as political figures only I would choose Eisenhower without doubts. Here my vote for Grant


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