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  • According To Major General Julian Thompson, CB, OBE

    Author of the book entitled:

    "Masters of The Battlefield, The World's Greatest Military Commanders
    and Their Battles, from Alexander the Great to Schwarzkopf",
    which was written in 2007, the top 30 Military Commanders are as follows:

    (I realize that I am new here, but I found flaws in your ideas
    when trying to compare one General from one period with another General from a whole different period
    & then there were Military Commanders that weren't even listed,
    which might be included in that which I have provided below.

    I'm not trying to create waves, only giving another viewpoint,
    or rather someone elses.)

    (1) Alexander the Great (356 - 323 B.C.)

    "The Battle of Gaugamela" in 331 B.C.

    (2) Hannibal (247 - 183 B.C.)

    "The Battle of Cannae" in 216 B.C.

    (3) Julius Caesar (100 - 44 B.C.)

    "The Siege of Alesia" in 52 B.C.

    (4) Oliver Cromwell (1599 - 1658)

    "The Battle of Dunbar" on September 3rd, 1650

    (5) Henri de La Tour d'Auvergne de Turenne (1611 - 1675)

    "The Battle of Turkheim" on January 5th, 1675

    (6) John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough (1650 - 1722)

    "The Battle of Blenheim" on August 13th, 1704

    (7) Hermann Maurice, comte de Saxe (1696 - 1750)

    "The Battle of Fontenoy" on May 11th, 1745

    (8) Frederick II, "the Great" King of Prussia (1712 - 1786)

    "The Battle of Rossbach" from November 3rd - 5th, 1757

    (9) George Washington (1732 - 1799)

    "The Siege of Yorktown" from September 28th - October 20th, 1781

    10) Alexander Vasilevich Suvorov (1729 - 1800)

    "The Battle of Trebbia" on June 18th & 19th, 1799

    11) Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington (1769 - 1852)

    "The Battle of Assaye" on September 23rd, 1803

    12) Napoleon (1769 - 1821)

    "The Battle of Austerlitz" on December 2nd, 1805

    13) Winfield Scott (1786 - 1866)

    "The Battle of Chapultepec" on September 12th & 13th, 1847

    14) Ulysses Simpson Grant (1822 - 1885)

    "The Vicksburg Campaign" from April 4th - July 4th, 1863

    15) Robert E. Lee (1807 - 1870)

    "The Battle of Chancellorsville" from April 27th - May 6th, 1863

    16) William Tecumseh Sherman (1820 - 1891)

    "Sherman's Capture of Atlanta" from May 7th - September 2nd, 1864

    17) Nathan Bedford Forrest (1821 - 1877)

    "Forrest's Raids" from March 15th - November 16th, 1864

    18) Paul von Beneckendorff und von Hindenburg (1847 - 1934)

    "The Battle of Tannenberg" from August 23rd - 31st, 1914

    19) Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (1881 - 1938)

    "The Defense of Gallipoli, ANZAC" during April 1915

    20) Heinz Wilhelm Guderian (1888 - 1954)

    "The Battle of Sedan" from May 13th - 15th, 1940

    21) Erwin Rommel (1891 - 1944)

    "The Battle of Gazala" from May 26th - June 21st, 1942

    22) George S. Patton (1885 - 1945)

    "The Battle of The Ardennes" from December 22nd, 1944 - January 28th, 1945

    23) Viscount Montgomery of Alamein (1887 - 1976)

    "The Battle of Normandy" from June 6th - August 1944

    24) J. Lawton Collins (1896 - 1987)

    "Operation Cobra" in July 1944

    25) Lucian K. Truscott (1895 - 1965)

    "The Anzio Breakout" in May 1944

    26) Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov (1896 - 1974)

    "The Soviet Advance on Berlin" from April 15th - May 2nd, 1945

    27) Douglas C. MacArthur (1880 - 1964)

    "Korea" June 25th, 1950 - April 11th, 1951

    28) Vo Nguyen Giap (1912 - Present)

    "The Battle of Dien Bien Phu" from November 20th, 1953 - May 8th, 1954

    29) Ariel Sharon (1928 - Present)

    "The Crossing of The Suez Canal" from October 6th - 24th, 1973

    30) Norman Schwarzkopf (1934 - Present)

    "Operation Desert Storm - The Liberation of Kuwait" from February 16th - 28th, 1991

  • #2
    This would have been a good starting point for our list; however, it's worth noting while he may feel these are the best, they are not always the most successful. Life works that way sometimes.
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    • #3
      I can't believe Austerlitz is only # 12--definitely a biased presentation.

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      • #4
        I can't believe some of the inclusions either.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by grognard View Post
          I can't believe Austerlitz is only # 12--definitely a biased presentation.
          Agreed.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by grognard View Post
            I can't believe Austerlitz is only # 12--definitely a biased presentation.
            Austerlitz is not # 12, Napoleon is # 12. Austerlitz was the place of battle.

            Also, they are not listed 1 - 30 as the best to the least best, but from the periods in time that they represented & the best example of their leadership in their best battle.

            I know what I mean, I just can't seem to express it properly.

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            • #7
              If they are not in ordewr,is it a ranking or not?

              A list that does not rank isn't much of a perspective.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by grognard View Post
                If they are not in ordewr,is it a ranking or not?

                A list that does not rank isn't much of a perspective.
                They are in order according to their birth & their outstanding leadership in their greatest battle.

                Alexander is listed first because he was born first & in the first great battle of all time.

                Schwarzkopf is listed last because he was born last & in the last great battle of all time. (By 2007 Standards)

                They are all listed as being the best leaders in their prospective time periods, with the exception of those listed during the Civil War & World War II.

                Those leaders are represented by their greatest achievements and what made them the best leader during those respective wars.

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                • #9
                  No worries. The new guy's input is just as valuable as an olde tymer's. We make no distinction, especially when the material is good like this!

                  I should note that many of the people on this did in fact make our 100 Greatest Commanders list, but did NOT make it into our contest with the 32 greatest (the polls you see out there).

                  Originally posted by Leonard 6 View Post

                  (I realize that I am new here, but I found flaws in your ideas
                  when trying to compare one General from one period with another General from a whole different period
                  & then there were Military Commanders that weren't even listed,
                  which might be included in that which I have provided below.

                  I'm not trying to create waves, only giving another viewpoint,
                  or rather someone elses.)
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Leonard 6 View Post
                    They are in order according to their birth & their outstanding leadership in their greatest battle.

                    Alexander is listed first because he was born first & in the first great battle of all time.

                    Schwarzkopf is listed last because he was born last & in the last great battle of all time. (By 2007 Standards)

                    They are all listed as being the best leaders in their prospective time periods, with the exception of those listed during the Civil War & World War II.

                    Those leaders are represented by their greatest achievements and what made them the best leader during those respective wars.
                    Anybody can do a chronological perspective, the question is who does the author consider #1, # 2 etc.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by grognard View Post
                      Anybody can do a chronological perspective, the question is who does the author consider #1, # 2 etc.
                      The is becoming redundant.

                      The author consider each of those great leaders to be the number 1 BEST in those time periods and for the reasons given pertaining to those particular battles.

                      Maybe if Alexander were alive today and he had led our forces in battle along side Schwarzkopf, then it might have been possible to determine which was the better leader.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Leonard 6 View Post
                        The is becoming redundant.

                        The author consider each of those great leaders to be the number 1 BEST in those time periods and for the reasons given pertaining to those particular battles.

                        Maybe if Alexander were alive today and he had led our forces in battle along side Schwarzkopf, then it might have been possible to determine which was the better leader.
                        Schwarzkopf won once, Alexander won many times against varied opponents, ranking the two of them is a no-brainer.

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