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  • Horatio Nelson vs. Washington (Round 1)

    Here are some facts for each player to help you in your voting (From Wikipedia):

    Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson, KB (29 September 1758 – 21 October 1805) was a British admiral famous for his participation in the Napoleonic Wars, most notably in the Battle of Trafalgar, a decisive British victory in the war, during which he lost his life.[1] Nelson went against the conventional tactics of the time by cutting through the enemy's lines. Nelson was noted for his ability to inspire and bring out the best in his men, to the point that it gained a name: "The Nelson Touch". His actions during these wars and his heroic image as a one-armed, one-eyed patriot, ensured that before and after his death he was revered like few military figures have been throughout British history.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson

    George Washington, (February 22, 1732 – December 14, 1799) was the first President of the United States, (1789–1797),[4] after leading the Continental Army to victory over the Kingdom of Great Britain in the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783). Washington was chosen to be the commander-in-chief of the American revolutionary forces in 1775. The following year, he forced the British out of Boston, but was defeated when he lost New York City later that year. He revived the patriot cause, however, by crossing the Delaware River in New Jersey and defeating the surprised enemy units. As a result of his strategy, Revolutionary forces captured the two main British combat armies — Saratoga and Yorktown. Negotiating with Congress, the colonial states, and French allies, he held together a tenuous army and a fragile nation amid the threats of disintegration and failure. Following the end of the war in 1783, Washington retired to his plantation on Mount Vernon.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington
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    Horatio Nelson
    53.85%
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    Washington
    46.15%
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  • #2
    Nelson here.

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    • #3
      Nelson for me.

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      • #4
        One won many battles and got a pigeon roost in the middle of London.

        One lost more battles than he won and left the start of a free and independent country.

        No contest for me.

        The last good George we had.
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        • #5
          Lord Nel gets my vote.
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          • #6
            Very,very tough. I go with the father of my country. But I do admire and respect Nelson too. Hard to pick.
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            • #7
              George triumphed against a continental army with an army put together on the fly.
              If you can't set a good example, be a glaring warning.

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              • #8
                I tied it up for Nelson
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                • #9
                  Very tough to choose... but I have to go with Nelson.
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                  • #10
                    Washington. Nelson was great, but usually had much superior forces.

                    George had to improvise. Never had a chance logistically and still won.
                    Yes, he lost more engagements then he won, but he also knew the value of picking his battles. Morale and perceived victories were more important to keeping the Revolution going.

                    I dare say, George won more Hearts & Minds than Horatio.

                    (Interesting as well, I grew up on the corner of Saratoga & Trafalgar, street names in my neighborhood. My address was Saratoga, maybe influenced me a little)
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Torien View Post
                      Washington. Nelson was great, but usually had much superior forces.

                      George had to improvise. Never had a chance logistically and still won.
                      Yes, he lost more engagements then he won, but he also knew the value of picking his battles. Morale and perceived victories were more important to keeping the Revolution going.

                      I dare say, George won more Hearts & Minds than Horatio.

                      (Interesting as well, I grew up on the corner of Saratoga & Trafalgar, street names in my neighborhood. My address was Saratoga, maybe influenced me a little)
                      True Nelson had the better trained crews, but at the Nile the ships were about even in numbers, at Trafalgar the British had 27 ships to the combined fleets of 33, and i think Nelson was well loved by his nation and crews.
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                      • #12
                        Washington is getting alot of votes out of patriotism and becuase he is such a central figure in US history. I think if Nelson and Washington were both American, or if they were from different countries, then Nelson would get more votes.

                        It almost feels un-American to vote against Washington.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Post Captain View Post
                          True Nelson had the better trained crews, but at the Nile the ships were about even in numbers, at Trafalgar the British had 27 ships to the combined fleets of 33, and i think Nelson was well loved by his nation and crews.
                          I didn't mean to step on any toes. Sorry.

                          I think you know that Nelson had far superior ships in both size, crew, & guns.

                          and Washington is still winning Hearts & Minds of revolutionaries the world over. People as diverse as Giap, Mao, & Yamamoto copied the way he led his Army and the way he communicated with the public.

                          That being said, I think you know it is hard for me to vote against the Ultimate Navy Man!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Torien View Post
                            I didn't mean to step on any toes. Sorry.

                            I think you know that Nelson had far superior ships in both size, crew, & guns.

                            and Washington is still winning Hearts & Minds of revolutionaries the world over. People as diverse as Giap, Mao, & Yamamoto copied the way he led his Army and the way he communicated with the public.

                            That being said, I think you know it is hard for me to vote against the Ultimate Navy Man!
                            It's your opinion, you are not stepping on any toes, i am bound to be bias, just look at my avatar.
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                            • #15
                              Hard, Hard to choose. Nelson: Won more battles and effectivly stopped Napoleon from getting to Britain.

                              Washington: Lost more then he won, but forced the surrender of the most British troops to that date.

                              I'm going to go with.....Nelson.
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