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Hannibal vs Scipio Africanus (Round 1)

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  • #31
    Hannibal had a substantial force at Zama, with a battle-hardened core, if not a well-trained or disciplined mass of troops. Moreover, he had the home field advantage, as it were. He couldn't have asked for a better chance to beat Scipio.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Alina View Post
      Hannibal had a substantial force at Zama, with a battle-hardened core, if not a well-trained or disciplined mass of troops. Moreover, he had the home field advantage, as it were. He couldn't have asked for a better chance to beat Scipio.
      Yes to all of the above, though we could quibble over home field. The big, and as it happened insurmountable, problem for him was it was a very poor chance. I'm pretty sure he- probably both commanders- knew it too.
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      • #33
        Had to go with Scipio... The victor always writes the history...
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Redleg155 View Post
          Had to go with Scipio... The victor always writes the history...
          Then why do we still know about Hannibal? Scipio & his Army erased Cartahge, but they couldn't bury the truth about Hannibal. Why is that?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Torien View Post
            Then why do we still know about Hannibal? Scipio & his Army erased Cartahge, but they couldn't bury the truth about Hannibal. Why is that?
            For the same reason that we know about Rommel. If you were getting your ass kicked by someone, what's the best spin you could put on it? That they were a bungler or that they were some sort of crafty genius?

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            • #36
              A different Scipio erased Carthage not Africanus. Now to Zama. Hannibal was superior in relative numbers of infantry but largely outnumbered in cavalry. His elephants were young and untrained, 1/3 of his army new and untrained levies, another 1/3 defeated mercenaries from Northern Italy who weren't acquainted with Hannibal, and 1/3 mostly southern Italian veteran mostly levies. Scipio had the Cannae and Herdonia survivors who had over 10 years of experience and the very experienxed Legions who had reconquered Sicily. He also had some Numidian infantry and Numidian cavalry. All in all Hannibal commanded his worst army and Scipio his best. Scipio was familiar with the terrain Hannibal wasn't. How many disadvantages can you get?
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