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  • Senior Iraqi al-Qaeda leaders killed

    Odds that these guys were fingered by the locals? Pretty good.

    Mr Maliki said on national TV that the Iraqi al-Qaeda leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who led an affiliate group, were dead.
    The US military later confirmed the two had been killed by Iraqi forces.
    Mr Maliki said both had been killed in Thar-Thar, Salaheddin province, west of Baghdad, by Iraqi agents with US help.
    Iraqi TV showed pictures of both men before and after their deaths.
    More from the BBC > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8630213.stm
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  • #2
    Originally posted by GCoyote View Post
    Odds that these guys were fingered by the locals? Pretty good.



    More from the BBC > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8630213.stm
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    • #3
      Originally posted by GCoyote View Post
      Odds that these guys were fingered by the locals?
      It makes sense if they were. If you had a psycho serial killer living up the road and for the first time in a long time you knew you could make a phone call and get him arrested/taken out wouldn't you?

      For the first time in a long time the average Iraqi has a little faith in the system and they are sick and tired of the nutters who want to drag them back into the stone age.

      Bully for them and I hope they can keep it going.
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      • #4
        Good riddance to the bastards and nice work on the Iraqis.
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          • #6
            This would make , what the 5th and 3rd announcements (respectively) of their demise?

            Somebody's got to get lucky sometime. He's had a good run, three years and change since the al-Baghdadi took over from the last dead Emir.

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            • #7
              Iraqis are for the most part pretty fed up with insurgents coming into their country. The Al Queda group has worn out their welcome a long time ago. The only places they exist now is where they can afford to make bribes for silence.
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              • #8
                Just to confirm, didn't AQ used to be non grata in iraq under Saddam?
                "We have no white flag."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GMan88 View Post
                  Just to confirm, didn't AQ used to be non grata in iraq under Saddam?
                  Under Saddam's pervasive security system, AQ was not viewed as a threat while they viewed Saddam as apostate and a legitimate target. There is evidence that AQ had dealings with Iraqi intelligence but exactly who was using who is still debated. They had the common goal of blowing up Americans and alliances have been based on less.
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                  • #10
                    Third Iraqi al-Qaeda leader killed: Iraqi military

                    Ahmed al-Obeidi died in an operation in the northern province of Nineveh, Iraqi military spokesman Maj Gen Qassim al-Moussawi said.
                    The news comes the day after the government announced two leading insurgents had been killed.
                    more from the BBC > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8632239.stm
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                    • #11
                      Yes, but were AQ allowed to operate inside Iraq?
                      "We have no white flag."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GMan88 View Post
                        Yes, but were AQ allowed to operate inside Iraq?
                        Some did pass through Iraq IIRC. I believe some also had Iraqi passports. What they did while they there is where the arguments start. Several members discussed this at length a few years ago. Perhaps one or more will drop by later to add their comments.
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                        • #13
                          usually when they say "iraqi's took them down" it means a bunch of American SOF and the token take along iraqi his britches.
                          Last edited by GCoyote; 20 Apr 10, 12:15.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GCoyote View Post
                            Odds that these guys were fingered by the locals? Pretty good.



                            More from the BBC > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8630213.stm

                            Not odd at all Bro; those kill many more civilians than our folks do; probably because they do it on purpose, although it seems like the media never pays attention to that.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GCoyote View Post
                              Some did pass through Iraq IIRC. I believe some also had Iraqi passports. What they did while they there is where the arguments start. Several members discussed this at length a few years ago. Perhaps one or more will drop by later to add their comments.


                              I think AQ agents pass through different countries, but from what I know, the AQ weren't welcome in Iraq under Saddam who sees them (rightly) as a threat. Now this doesn't mean there wasn't collusion between them, just that he likes to keep them at a distance (if what I heard is true).

                              Thanks GCoyote.
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