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  • Lucky for us , it is Israel and not North Korea

    Well if North Korea is the one who attack those convoy , World War 3 will begin immediately

    As usual Israel is the "victim" here and killing those "innocent people" is just a self defense act

    Israel should be allow to use force because they are a small defense less country and they must have nuclear weapon for protection ( sorry Iran , you are not small enough)

    So Israel no worries , you have the license to kill anyone..16 people is a small matter to you

  • #2
    Originally posted by papajack View Post
    Well if North Korea is the one who attack those convoy , World War 3 will begin immediately

    As usual Israel is the "victim" here and killing those "innocent people" is just a self defense act

    Israel should be allow to use force because they are a small defense less country and they must have nuclear weapon for protection ( sorry Iran , you are not small enough)

    So Israel no worries , you have the license to kill anyone..16 people is a small matter to you
    That sounds about right.
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by papajack View Post
      Well if North Korea is the one who attack those convoy , World War 3 will begin immediately

      As usual Israel is the "victim" here and killing those "innocent people" is just a self defense act

      Israel should be allow to use force because they are a small defense less country and they must have nuclear weapon for protection ( sorry Iran , you are not small enough)

      So Israel no worries , you have the license to kill anyone..16 people is a small matter to you
      You must have missed this whole thread .

      http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...ad.php?t=93602

      For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman

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      • #4
        Originally posted by papajack View Post
        Well if North Korea is the one who attack those convoy , World War 3 will begin immediately

        As usual Israel is the "victim" here and killing those "innocent people" is just a self defense act

        Israel should be allow to use force because they are a small defense less country and they must have nuclear weapon for protection ( sorry Iran , you are not small enough)

        So Israel no worries , you have the license to kill anyone..16 people is a small matter to you
        I disagree.

        North Korea has sunk ships killed people and kidnapped people without provocation and yet there is no World War III -as a matter of fact there is no great international outrage (the countries treated this way were of course outraged). In general they got away relatively easily.

        The ships to Gaza was a deliberate provocation against Israel's illegal blockade. If they really wanted to help the people in Gaza they should have made as little noise as possible and they might have actually succeeded in bringing in some supplies to Gaza. Instead they choose to make as much media noise as possible making it impossible for the Israelis to back down. This was a deliberate provocation to make Israel look bad and it succeeded. Hamas are probably cheering.



        Exactly what happened when the Israelis illegally boarded the ships is unknown. The Israeli version of the events is that their troops were met with armed resistance including one case of firearms resistance.

        That Israel blockades Gaza in frustration at terrorist attacks from Hamas-controlled territory is psychologically understandable (being attacked and not being able to fight back directly makes people respond with foolish aggression) but it is a clear violation of international law and probably counter-productive.

        Israel is certainly not the darling of international media. For comparison the governments of Syria or Saudi Arabia can mistreat or butcher their own people with almost no media coverage. It would seem that we hold the democratic Israel to a higher standard than nasty Arab dictatorships -perhaps rightly so. Still, I cannot help but to think this makes reporting from the Middle East oblique.

        Sensemaker
        Last edited by Sensemaker; 02 Jun 10, 08:50.
        It doesn't matter how much intelligence you have. What matters is how much intelligence you use.

        If it is stupid, but works, it aint stupid.

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        • #5
          oh boy ..here we go again ..
          ' Because it has Electrolytes ! '

          regards:
          Henk

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          • #6
            Thank you, Sensemaker.
            You already told most of what I wanted to post here.

            Just one more detail to add as long as we
            started to speak about N.Korea.

            GAZA convoy claimed to be a humanitarian aid convoy.

            People of N.Korea are starving and suffering much more than
            people of Gaza and for much more longer period of time.

            So, why for 60 years of N.Korean people
            suffering there was no single one
            European leftists humanitarian aid
            convoy to help people of N.Korea ?

            Or Rwanda ?
            Or Darfur ?
            Or Somalia ?
            Or Sudan ?
            Or Burma ?
            Or Tibet ?

            Why all these heart-bleeding peace-fighters
            are attracted to Palestine like fly to sh*t
            and don't have guts to help to the suffering people in
            another parts of the World ?
            Dixi.

            Beware of Occam's razor !!!!

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            • #7
              N. Korea has slipped into Japan and kidnapped young women. The women are now middle aged and still in N. Korea and not one bleeding heart sheds a drop.

              But Israel must be destroyed by its arms and legs being bound by an international leftist press. And an enemy with a knife at its throat.
              "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made."
              — Groucho Marx

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              • #8
                black sabbath on 78rpm.. backwards ...
                ' Because it has Electrolytes ! '

                regards:
                Henk

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RS116 View Post
                  So, why for 60 years of N.Korean people
                  suffering there was no single one
                  European leftists humanitarian aid
                  convoy to help people of N.Korea ?
                  It's about appeasement.Appeasement of their future masters.They just want to secure their postions for when Europe is no longer European.They've got to know what direction Mecca is.
                  ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

                  BLACK JEEPS MATTER!

                  BLACK MOTORCYCLES MATTER!

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                  • #10
                    It is a question of culture. The Israelis belong to the western world, so their actions are scrutinized. Same goes for America btw.
                    Just look at Afghanistan and compare the public outcry over the fighting there now, compared to when the Soviets invaded it. We expect better behavior from the Israelis (and Americans) because they belong to our cultural family, if the Russians or Chinese do the same things (and often they do), well, we simply do not hold them to the same morale standards, we expect nothing better of them.
                    Reaction to the 2016 Munich shootings:
                    Europe: "We are shocked and support you in these harsh times, we stand by you."
                    USA: "We will check people from Germany extra-hard and it is your own damn fault for being so stupid."

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                    • #11
                      I agree Acheron, Israel proclaims itself as a Western Democracy so in turn the the rest of the Western world treats it like one but Israel has alot of security issues & is located in a unstable region so she often has to commit actions that seem un-democractic which in turn gets the Western world's crictism.
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                      “You need to help people. I know it's not very Republican to say but you need to help people.” DONALD TRUMP, 2016

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RS116 View Post
                        Thank you, Sensemaker.
                        You already told most of what I wanted to post here.

                        Just one more detail to add as long as we
                        started to speak about N.Korea.

                        GAZA convoy claimed to be a humanitarian aid convoy.

                        People of N.Korea are starving and suffering much more than
                        people of Gaza and for much more longer period of time.

                        So, why for 60 years of N.Korean people
                        suffering there was no single one
                        European leftists humanitarian aid
                        convoy to help people of N.Korea ?

                        Or Rwanda ?
                        Or Darfur ?
                        Or Somalia ?
                        Or Sudan ?
                        Or Burma ?
                        Or Tibet ?

                        Why all these heart-bleeding peace-fighters
                        are attracted to Palestine like fly to sh*t
                        and don't have guts to help to the suffering people in
                        another parts of the World ?
                        Why don't we have the guts to help these same people? No oil, no eco gain for us? Can you answer that question?
                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #13
                          Good point Half Pint John, Liberals tend to shout the importance of aid & human rights more than Conservitives so they are expected to do more. Not really fair but that's how idealogy works.
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                          “You need to help people. I know it's not very Republican to say but you need to help people.” DONALD TRUMP, 2016

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                            Why don't we have the guts to help these same people? No oil, no eco gain for us? Can you answer that question?
                            No I can not answer that question because it includes initially
                            false statement.
                            We , USA ( before Obama ) where trying to help people in Darfur,
                            Somalia, Tibet using conventional politics.
                            May be not enough, but we were trying.

                            These leftists "peaceful heroes" did nothing
                            like they did for Gaza.
                            Nothing, nada, nope.....

                            They are so brave with IDF, but they
                            absolutely do not have guts to mess
                            with any other army of any nondemocratic
                            country because they know
                            they will be shot on spot.

                            Sorry, but it is disgusting when bunch of
                            cheap clowns is trying to play heroes.
                            Dixi.

                            Beware of Occam's razor !!!!

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                            • #15
                              Imagine trying to send aid over the Himalayas from India into China of this capicity. It would be nearly impossible without PLA Troops showing up.
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                              “You need to help people. I know it's not very Republican to say but you need to help people.” DONALD TRUMP, 2016

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