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    Not in this article, but other sources are saying the drone approached from the Mediterranean on Saturday before being intercepted by fighter jets deep into southern Israeli airspace.

    Lots of implications here I would think. What would be the purpose of this particular drone flight since it was not carrying explosives, and how would Hezbollah/Iranian drones be used in future?

    From: http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=286880

    10/07/2012 00:58

    Of all the hostile elements seeking to harm Israeli national security, only two have the capability, track record and motivation to send drones into Israeli airspace: Iran and its Shi’ite proxy Hezbollah. The IDF has refused to comment on where the drone that was intercepted Saturday over southern Israel originated, or who sent it, but several factors point to Tehran and its Lebanese terror organization as prime suspects. Ten days ago Iran showcased a new long-range drone it said could fly to Israel and carry out reconnaissance or bombing missions.

    The drone, called Shahed-129, was proudly unveiled by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps at the end of September. It reportedly has a range of 2,000 kilometers and was likely presented as part of Iran’s attempt to reply to Israel’s fleet of massive Heron drones. Herons can fly to Iran and carry out a range of missions, and could be deployed in a future strike on Iran’s nuclear sites.

    If Tehran wanted to send a drone toward Israel, however, it would not have to launch one from its own territory. It has already set up a military base in southern Lebanon in the form of Hezbollah, a terror entity that has been trying to infiltrate Israeli airspace with its own drones for several years. With Iranian funds, and likely with Iranian technological assistance, Hezbollah has been trying to build up its UAV capabilities.

    Staff Edit: snipped to abide forum copyright rules. Please follow the link provided to the complete article at it's source.
    Last edited by PhilipLaos; 06 Oct 12, 23:32.
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    Israeli Air Force video of the drone being intercepted.



    The drone was first spotted above the Mediterranean in the area of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip to the west of Israel, said military spokeswoman Avital Leibovich. It was kept under surveillance and followed by Israeli air force jets before it was shot down above a forest in an unpopulated area near the border with the occupied West Bank.

    Staff Edit: snipped to abide forum copyright rules. Please follow the link provided to the complete article at it's source.


    From: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...h-drone-video/
    Last edited by Admiral; 06 Oct 12, 23:10.
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    • #3
      It seems I recall Hezbollah attempting to use home made drones a few years back or at least claiming to have done so. Off the top of my head I can think of three or four reasons they would do this:
      • Better reconnaissance than they can get from Google Earth.
      • Testing the Israeli air defense network for weaknesses.
      • Practice runs before adding an IED to create a poor-man's cruise missile.
      • Propaganda


      Obviously these are not mutually exclusive and the IDF will learn more by examining the debris. Hopefully they will share some of what they learn with us Armchair types.
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      • #4
        They've got to be kidding!

        The vid has been removed from YouTube for the dubious reason that it violates their policy on violent content!

        ATM it is still up on liveleak (which will allow just about anything)

        http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=b1795d9a3a65
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        • #5
          Originally posted by GCoyote View Post
          The vid has been removed from YouTube for the dubious reason that it violates their policy on violent content!

          ATM it is still up on liveleak (which will allow just about anything)

          http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=b1795d9a3a65
          Jesus!

          YouTube is full of violent footage. This one just shows an unmanned aircraft (barely more than a dot in the frame) exploding in mid air.

          What's going on?

          EDIT: I just watched on CNN a YouTube video of a young man in Aleppo running away from a sniper and then being shot, falling to the ground, crawling, then dying.

          But unmanned dots exploding in mid-air are a no-no? Makes no sense at all!


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          Last edited by PhilipLaos; 07 Oct 12, 13:12.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by GCoyote View Post
            It seems I recall Hezbollah attempting to use home made drones a few years back or at least claiming to have done so.
            You recalled correctly.

            During the 2006 Second Lebanon War, Israeli F-16 fighters intercepted a Hezbollah drone packed with explosives that was heading toward central Israel. The small, low-flying aircraft was tracked by the air force as soon as it took off from Lebanon.

            In September, Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah said his organization could bomb the Dimona nuclear reactor in southern Israel.
            Read more at: http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=286880
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            • #7
              Drone of unknown origen downed

              Drone Downed………….. Israeli Air force shot down a unarmed drone after it entered the country’s airspace The unidentified drone came in from the Mediterranean Sea penetrating Israel air space before interception IDFs are searching the Negev to find and identify the drone

              Wonder who is also using Drones and how advanced are they……


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              • #8
                Very interesting - any links or other useful info ?
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                • #9
                  Whoever it was must have known it would be destroyed and therefore can only have been trying to estimate Israeli response times.

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                  • #10
                    It'll be the Americans stock checking dimona
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                    • #11
                      Threads merged.
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                      • #12
                        Lebanon Says Israeli Planes Circled Its Airspace for an Hour

                        By JODI RUDOREN
                        Published: October 7, 2012

                        JERUSALEM — The morning after the Israeli Air Force shot down an unidentified drone in the Negev Desert, the Lebanese government said that four Israeli warplanes spent an hour on Sunday illegally circling in its airspace. ...
                        http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/08/wo...r-an-hour.html
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                        • #13
                          The drones entered Israeli airspace from the south, around Gaza strip.

                          Even though all official eyes are pointed towards Lebanon (and this event is precedented by Hezbollah) I wouldn't rule out Egypt, or organizations operating from Sinai, quite yet.

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                          • #14
                            Technology for “drones” has gotten so cheap that there are amateur sites dedicated to building your own drone. I would think that the Israelis are well aware of this threat. One of the ways to counter these aircraft is to monitor control frequencies and jam them as it is not likely these links are encrypted.

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                            • #15
                              Update: Hezbollah leader claims responsibility for sending unmanned drone into Israel - @AP

                              Hezbollah leader says drone 'flew over sensitive installations' inside Israel, downed near Dimona nuclear reactor - @Reuters

                              CNN are reporting that the Hezbollah leader said the drone was Iranian-made.


                              Philip
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