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    One Indian Army Colonel and two soldiers killed in fight with Chinese Army.

    Three Indian soldiers killed in clashes along border with China in the Himalayas

    (CNN)Three Indian soldiers were killed during a "violent face-off" with Chinese troops along the countries' de facto border in the Himalayas late Monday, the Indian army said in a statement.

    The incident occurred during a "deescalation process" underway in the Galwan Valley in the disputed Aksai Chin-Ladakh area, where a large troop build up has reportedly been taking place for weeks now on both sides of the border, before senior military commanders began talks earlier this month.

    According to the Indian army statement, there was loss of life "on both sides," including an Indian officer and two Indian soldiers. The statement did not specify the number of additional Chinese casualties.It added that senior military officials from both sides are currently meeting to defuse the situation.


    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/16/a...hnk/index.html

  • #2
    One does not hear about Colonels getting killed often!

    Pruitt
    Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

    Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

    by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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    • #3
      This particular incident does not appear pre meditated or sanctioned at higher levels. Probably a bunch of troops losing it due to a combination of prolonged stress, aggressive body language and language barriers. No shots were fired. About 200 troops from both sides brawling and casulties on both sides. Chinese not disclosing their casualties.
      Most of the deescalation is happening according to protocol. In this particular area in the Galwan area the PLA troops were supposedly not vacating the area as agreed upon
      The Col supposedly went to remind the PLA unit to stick to their part of the deescalation . While attempting this he and his subordinates were ambushed by pla troops seemingly performing a withdrawal and killed resulting in both sides bringing reinforcements and a major free for all ensued
      My words are more speculative based on tit bits of information I am coming across. There is a possibility of a different narrative once situation become more clear
      Last edited by Slim; 16 Jun 20, 14:16.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
        One does not hear about Colonels getting killed often!

        Pruitt
        He was battalion commander,

        As per old Indo - Chinese agreements, there are certain laid down rules, according to them senior most officers see and remain present at de escalation process.

        He was there for that,

        According to unconfirmed report they were overwhelmed by superior numbers of Chinese soldiers, this time using wooden clubs with barbed wire imposed on it with spikes.

        Some say few of our troops were taken prisoner.

        Let's see and wait for official updates

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        • #5
          The fallen soldiers were from 16 Bihar Regiment.

          Some 11 more soldiers are reported missing.

          As per the tradition of Indian Army Regiments, the Biharis will Avange the cowardly attack on their unarmed C.O and Soldiers. This tradition is very old,

          images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQXYs8PLhN4JttCnk7kvfDraP7lL3wq6qJdFpu_4j5pStR0KEjY&usqp=CAU.jpg




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          • #6
            17 more critically injured soldiers died.

            The Army on Tuesday confirmed that 20 soldiers lost their lives in the India-China violent face-off on Monday night in Ladakh.

            Here is the Army's full statement.

            "Indian and Chinese troops have disengaged at the Galwan area where they had earlier clashed on the night of 15/16 June 2020. 17 Indian troops who were critically injured in the line of duty at the stand-off location and exposed to sub-zero temperatures in the high altitude terrain have succumbed to their injuries, taking the total that were killed in action to 20. Indian Army is firmly committed to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the nation.
            https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indi...ladakh-2247358


            Around 40 Chinese casualties as per Indian sources.

            No official Chinese statement.

            One Chinese journalist said in Twitter 5 dead 11 injured.

            India-China border tensions LIVE Updates: Chinese side suffered 43 casualties, says report

            As India and China were involved in a bloody face off in the Eastern Ladakh border, Indian intercepts of China have revealed that the neighbouring side suffered 43 casualties including dead and seriously injured in the face-off in the Galwan valley, news agency ANI reported, citing sources. CNBC-TV18.com could not verify the report

            https://www.cnbctv18.com/politics/in...ws-6146261.htm

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            • #7
              Our PM will have hardest night of his career tonight.

              I hope he will at least allow our troops to carry arms, and to be allowed to be used in such situations.

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              • #8


                According to us Intelligence 35 Chinese troops died

                https://www.usnews.com/news/world-re...ash-in-decades

                It seems rather absurd that 20 Indian troops and 35 PLA troops would perish in a fight that involved crude melee weapons. I am hearing unsubstantiated claims that 3 of the 20 Indian troops that perished had firearm injuries and a few died of exposure. Apparently a significant part of the confrontation occurred during the dark and some of the wounded Indian troops lay exposed to the extreme cold unattended and perished.
                There are also reports coming in that some injuries and fatalities may have resulted from falls in the steep mountainous terrain.

                The more I research the event the more convinced I get that either of these occured:
                -PLA unit in question failed to receive orders to de escalte from H Q
                - The unit deliberately chose to disobey orders
                - The unit was very poorly trained
                - Massive communication failure
                The situation is still very dynamic and new facts will keep emerging as situation becomes more clear
                Last edited by Slim; 16 Jun 20, 23:15.

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                • #9
                  Chinese are not disengaging despite Army and Diplomatic agreement.

                  Private / open source satellite data proves it.


                  Satellite images from Planet Labs, photographs taken less than 24 hours after the carnage on the night of June 15, capture in stunning detail the truth of the violent clash between Indian and Chinese troops in the Ladakh valley on the night of June 15 and the situation after.

                  These are the first visual details of the spot where Indian and Chinese troops brawled in Galwan Valley and led to heavy casualties on both sides. The satellite images show that despite being massively outnumbered by Chinese troops and losing at least 20 men, the Indian side is still holding its ground at Galwan, day after the clashes.

                  High resolution satellite images from Ground Zero taken on June 16 show a massive continuing build-up by the Chinese side despite the de-escalation agreement at the Lt Gen-level on June 6
                  https://www.indiatoday.in/india/stor...900-2020-06-17

                  It seems Chinese will fight a war quite certainly.


                  Chinese sides.

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                  Flash point. On lower side Chinese more than 200 vehicles.

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                  Indian side.

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                  • #10
                    Conflict Area in Ladakh.

                    images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTyQ58qUnRsafu5Eds3cn8FrFuR6WdigC9Aoo9kzBGUDLeea8gK&usqp=CAU.jpg

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by vikram72 View Post
                      The fallen soldiers were from 16 Bihar Regiment.

                      Some 11 more soldiers are reported missing.

                      As per the tradition of Indian Army Regiments, the Biharis will Avange the cowardly attack on their unarmed C.O and Soldiers. This tradition is very old,

                      images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQXYs8PLhN4JttCnk7kvfDraP7lL3wq6qJdFpu_4j5pStR0KEjY&usqp=CAU.jpg




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                      Bless em all! Brave men, a credit to India...
                      ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
                      All human ills he can subdue,
                      Or with a bauble or medal
                      Can win mans heart for you;
                      And many a blessing know to stew
                      To make a megloamaniac bright;
                      Give honour to the dainty Corse,
                      The Pixie is a little shite.

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                      • #12
                        https://youtu.be/A7bCug7Zy3Y

                        If this news video is accurate I stand corrected. My previous assertion that this engagement was a
                        product of a misunderstanding may have been erroneous

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dibble201Bty View Post

                          Bless em all! Brave men, a credit to India...
                          Thanks.

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                          • #14
                            BBC has published the nail studded iron clubs,
                            Used to kill Indian Soldiers.



                            India has rebutted China's ownership claim over the Galwan river valley, the site of the first fatal brawl between the powers in at least 45 years.

                            A fight on Monday night left at least 20 Indian soldiers dead and escalated tensions between the two nations.

                            India's foreign ministry said the Chinese claim on the valley was "exaggerated and untenable".

                            Meanwhile, an image of weapons purportedly used to attack Indian soldiers caused outrage in the country.

                            The image of the nail-studded iron rods was passed to the BBC by a senior military official on the India-China border, who confirmed its authenticity. The armies of the two countries have not commented on the picture.

                            Defence analyst Ajai Shukla, who first tweeted the image, described the use of such weapons as "barbarism". The absence of firearms in the clash dates back to a 1996 agreement between the two sides that guns and explosives be prohibited along the disputed stretch of the border, to deter escalation.
                            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53089037


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                            • #15
                              Un provoked attack ,An act of savagery. No professional army in uniform would do something like that. An indisgression on the part of a single soldier or two can be forgiven but an entire battalion sized unit indulging in this behavior reflects very poorly. This is no professional army despite all the propaganda videos by the communist party and its mouthpiece Global times A third rate army following the examples of savages no different from ISIS or Al Quaida.
                              Last edited by Slim; 18 Jun 20, 07:18.

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