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    Ultra-rare colour images of Afghanistan in 1928 reveal a land of manicured gardens, elegant palaces and serene tree-lined avenues.

    Looking idyllic with manicured gardens, grand historical buildings and stunning mountain ranges, this is Afghanistan in the late 1920s. This series of ultra-rare colour photographs shows a country that stands in stark contrast to the war-blighted nation that we know today. Above, a view over the landscaped gardens in Paghman, which were commissioned and built in the early 1900s by Amanullah Khan, the sovereign of Afghanistan from 1919 to 1929
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...stan-1928.html

  • #2
    Afghanistan was quite Peaceful, When it was ruled by a Dynasty.

    After 9 / 11 Constitutional Monarchy, Afghan style could have done better.

    but US experts were against the Idea.

    I think by gifting it back to Afghan Royals was a better choice, then gifting it back to troika of Pakistan Army. ISI ( An Independent state inside a state) and Taliban.

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    • #3
      We don't like Kings.

      Afghan is proof of what the long-term effects of the dead hand of islam will do to a country and a culture. As recent events show, it corrupts from within and results in slaughter and destruction. Look at Syria, Liyba, Egypt.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
        We don't like Kings.

        Afghan is proof of what the long-term effects of the dead hand of islam will do to a country and a culture. As recent events show, it corrupts from within and results in slaughter and destruction. Look at Syria, Liyba, Egypt.
        US should have asked Afghans, British who were the only World Power who successfully dealt with Afghans.

        Middle East suffered a lot , it was better when it had multi religious communities.

        Afghans are very different from their fellow religious people from middle east.

        They are from Indian sub continent.

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        • #5
          Why do you say they are from the Indian sub continent?
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by vikram72 View Post

            US should have asked Afghans,.
            'em.

            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by vikram72 View Post
              Afghanistan was quite Peaceful, When it was ruled by a Dynasty.

              .[/B][/U]
              Apart from a bloody civil war 1928 -1929 which ended in a siege of Kabul and the overthrow of the ruler.
              Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
              Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkV View Post

                Apart from a bloody civil war 1928 -1929 which ended in a siege of Kabul and the overthrow of the ruler.
                It is very simple to say that.

                king Amanulla fought and forced British to grant Afghanistan complete freedom.

                He started reforms that were unheard in Muslim world. Like Co education school. Abolishment of Muslim women's veil.

                He was pro Germany. Influenced by Ataa Turk.

                Afghans even allowed Us Indians to set up Our first Independent Provisional Government. Even Though he was not completely Independent during First World War.

                The King was caught in great game between Great Britain and Russia later USSR. His overthrow was due to grand conspiracy.

                The pictures depicted in the given link are from the era when first time after a laps of many hundreds of years after forced conversion in to Islam, the women of Afghanistan had certain freedom.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                  Why do you say they are from the Indian sub continent?
                  Sir.

                  All though majority Pashtun and Afghans claim Jewish Ancestry, at the same time will never liked to be called related to Jews.

                  Afghanistan was part of India. A gateway to India, hence always in crossroad of Civilizations.

                  It was the area where our Hindu Epics were written.

                  it was ruled by Hindu and Buddhist Kingdom's.

                  Their Islamic traditions before the arrival of Saudi Financed Wahabi / Devbandi Talibani style. much similar to Indian tradition.

                  Not counting the Pakhtun Code of conduct. Which has sadly went away after soviet Invasion. Rather completely lost after arrival of Taliban.

                  Afghanistan till Soviets arrived had big Hindu and Sikh Population.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post

                    'em.
                    We in India Sir, Sincerely don't want to see US exit Afghanistan the way it exited from Vietnam.


                    Wish to remind you Sir, Russia , China are again in forefront in talking to Taliban, including Iran.

                    Hopefully we may see proper and honourable exit of US from Afghanistan.

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                    • #11
                      Pashtunwali.

                      1. Melmastia (hospitality) – Showing hospitality and profound respect to all visitors, regardless of race, religion, national affiliation or economic status and doing so without any hope of remuneration or favor. Pashtuns will go to great lengths to show their hospitality.[3][14][15]
                      2. Nanawatai (forgiveness or asylum) – Derived from the verb meaning to go in, this refers to the protection given to a person against his enemies. People are protected at all costs; even those running from the law must be given refuge until the situation can be clarified.[3] Nanawatai can also be used when the vanquished party in a dispute is prepared to go into the house of the victors and ask for their forgiveness: this is a peculiar form of "chivalrous" surrender, in which an enemy seeks "sanctuary" at the house of their foe. A notable example is that of Navy Petty Officer First Class Marcus Luttrell, the sole survivor of a US Navy SEAL team ambushed by Taliban fighters. Wounded, he evaded the enemy and was aided by members of the Sabray tribe who took him to their village. The tribal chief protected him, fending off attacking tribes until word was sent to nearby US forces.
                      3. Nyaw aw Badal (justice and revenge) – To seek justice or takerevenge against the wrongdoer. No time limit restricts the period in which revenge can be taken. Justice in Pashtun lore needs elaborating: even a mere taunt (or "Peghor/پېغور") counts as an insult which usually can only be redressed by shedding the taunter's blood. If he is out of reach, his closest male relation must suffer the penalty instead. Badal may lead to blood feuds that can last generations and involve whole tribes with the loss of hundreds of lives. Normally blood feuds in this male-dominated society are settled in a number of ways.[3]
                      4. Turah (bravery) – A Pashtun must defend his land, property, and family from incursions. He should always stand bravely against tyranny and be able to defend the honour of his name. Death can follow if anyone offends this principle.[3]
                      5. Sabat (loyalty) – Pashtuns owe loyalty to their family, friends and tribe members. Pashtuns can never become disloyal as this would be a matter of shame for their families and themselves.
                      6. Khegaṛa / Shegaṛa (righteousness) – A Pashtun must always strive for good in thought, word, and deed. Pashtuns must behave respectfully to people, to animals, and to the environment around them. Pollution of the environment or its destruction is against the Pashtunwali.[3]
                      7. Groh (faith) – Contains a wider notion of trust or faith in God (known as "Allah" in Arabic and "Khudai" in Pashto).[3] The notion of trusting in one Creator generally comports to the Islamic idea of belief in only one God (tawhid).
                      8. Pat, Wyaar aw Meṛaana (respect, pride and courage) - Pashtuns must demonstrate courage [مېړانه]. Their pride [وياړ], has great importance in Pashtun society and must be preserved. They must respect themselves and others in order to be able to do so, especially those they do not know. Respect begins at home, among family members and relatives. If one does not have these qualities they are not considered worthy of being a Pashtun.[3]
                      9. Naamus (protection of women) – A Pashtun must defend the honor of women at all costs and must protect them from vocal and physical harm.[3]
                      10. Nang (honor) – A Pashtun must defend the weak around him.
                      11. Hewaad (country) – A Pashtun is obliged to protect the land of the Pashtuns. Defense of the nation means the defense of Pashtun culture or "haśob" [هڅوب], countrymen or "hewaadwaal" [هيوادوال], and of the self or "źaan" [ځان]. This principle is also interconnected to another principle denoting the attachment a Pashtun feels with his land or źmaka [ځمکه].[16]. ..

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                      • #12
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtunwali

                        Pashtun code of Conduct as it was.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by vikram72 View Post

                          Sir.

                          All though majority Pashtun and Afghans claim Jewish Ancestry, at the same time will never liked to be called related to Jews.

                          Afghanistan was part of India. A gateway to India, hence always in crossroad of Civilizations.

                          It was the area where our Hindu Epics were written.

                          it was ruled by Hindu and Buddhist Kingdom's.

                          Their Islamic traditions before the arrival of Saudi Financed Wahabi / Devbandi Talibani style. much similar to Indian tradition.

                          Not counting the Pakhtun Code of conduct. Which has sadly went away after soviet Invasion. Rather completely lost after arrival of Taliban.

                          Afghanistan till Soviets arrived had big Hindu and Sikh Population.
                          All well and good but still doesn't make it a part of the sub continent
                          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by vikram72 View Post

                            It is very simple to say that.

                            king Amanulla fought and forced British to grant Afghanistan complete freedom.

                            He started reforms that were unheard in Muslim world. Like Co education school. Abolishment of Muslim women's veil.

                            He was pro Germany. Influenced by Ataa Turk.

                            Afghans even allowed Us Indians to set up Our first Independent Provisional Government. Even Though he was not completely Independent during First World War.

                            The King was caught in great game between Great Britain and Russia later USSR. His overthrow was due to grand conspiracy.

                            The pictures depicted in the given link are from the era when first time after a laps of many hundreds of years after forced conversion in to Islam, the women of Afghanistan had certain freedom.
                            There was still a civil war and not one contrived by external forces - it was dynastic. The Great Game was over. Stop romanticising
                            Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                            Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by vikram72 View Post

                              We in India Sir, Sincerely don't want to see US exit Afghanistan the way it exited from Vietnam.
                              Oh, well.

                              Originally posted by vikram72 View Post
                              Wish to remind you Sir, Russia , China are again in forefront in talking to Taliban, including Iran.

                              Hopefully we may see proper and honourable exit of US from Afghanistan.
                              Yeah, like the Russians will find a warm reception in Afgan.

                              You should be worried about China. They have no love for India.

                              You might want to follow the path of peace and end your endless bickering with Pakistan before you find yourself in a bad position....

                              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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